The Macedonian Tendency: Greeks Find Macedonians in 1920!

Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Greeks Find Macedonians in 1920!

Dear Robert D. Kaplan,
Author, "Balkan Ghosts"

From: David Edenden

Below is an article regarding the results of the 1920 Greek Census in Greek Macedonia, published by The Rainbow Party of ethnic Macedonians in Greece. The Greek government has classified it as top-secret for reasons that are obvious from the article below. Maybe you can write on how the Greek government was the first to recognize Macedonians, as a people, in the census and even commissioned the first Macedonian language school text book!

Robert, I think it is time for a mea culpa ... you know what I mean.

2000 Who Says There Are No Minority Languages in Greece:
October 2000

It is widely known that Greece refuses to acknowledge the existence of national minorities and minority languages. Similarly, in the Greek census of 1961, 1971, 1981 and 1991 any mention of one's mother tongue is absent. This is not by chance but, rather, a deliberate policy of the Greek government. In the earlier census of 1940 and 1951 one can find such declarations as "Slavic" language. Whereas, in the census of 1928 one can find a language declaration of "Slav Macedonian."

However, in the census of 1920, immediately after Greece's acquisition of the "New Territories" the government of the day offers some revealing information. In the census of 19 December, 1920, the official Greek census form had a separate area asking: "what is your mother tongue? What is the language you speak at home? If your mother tongue is not Greek do you understand Greek? This census document can be found in the book by M. Houliarakis (Geografiki, dioikitiki kai plithismiaki ekseliksi tis Ellados tom G' page 363)

The data obtained from the census of 1920 offers great detail about the population to the point of distinguishing between deaf males and deaf females. It also includes the data on language and mother tongue.

Unfortunately, the census information relating to the population of the "New Territories" was never made public. This information preceded the exchanges of Christian and Muslim populations between Turkey and Greece or the so-called "voluntary" population exchanges between Greece and Bulgaria.

At that time Greece only published the results from the geographic area of "old Greece" (Sterea, Evoia, Thessalia, Arta, Ionian Islands, Cyclades, Peloponese...). Five volumes containing census data from the "New Territories," which included information on religion and language, were prohibited from being made public.

In the archives of the Census Council or the General Archives of the Greek state we shall not find census data on the northern territories (the new territories of Macedonia and Western Thrace) for the census period of 1920.

However, page 182 of the volume of census data for 1920 (published in 1929) for the area of Trikala (in Thessaly and Arta just south of the new territories) the following linguistic categories are reported for mother tongue:

Greek, Spanish, Romi, Koutsovlach, Albanian, Bulgarian, Serbian and 37 individuals from Trikala who declared their mother tongue as Macedonian. [page 1] | [page 2]

This is official census data published by the Greek government wherein, not only is the Macedonian language documented by the census authority but it is rightly distinguished from Bulgarian and Serbian.

One can now appreciate why the 1920 census results for the "New Territories" have gone missing.

We would like to thank Mr. Dimitrios Lithoksoou for uncovering this data, which we published in Volume 5 of our magazine, Nova Zora (New Dawn). Mr. Lithoksoou has his own Web site with several pages of interest to the Macedonians of Greece.

To read this page in Greek click here

You can visit these pages by using the following links (in Greek): 1 | 2 | 3 | 4

3 comments:

  1. Why do you have to rely upon the Greek statistics - that end up either biased or entirely hidden - and do not chose to settle for some more reliable source of information at the time, like the records of the immigrants in the Ellis island of New York. The U.S.Americans would certainly not have any reason to alter those records. You could, more specifically, choose the period from 1910 until 1914, when a large number of people fled Macedonia because of the wars, and they were not just free to express their identity, but a very good reason to trumpet it after all of the sufferings.

    Well, as a matter of fact, a fella with the alias DanielMaco bothered to do so here:

    http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/free-speech-macedonia-forum/2434-stefovs-grandfather-2.html

    I shall include his data along with my comments upon them to you, so that you can make your own opinion about the discovery of your people by the U.S. Authorities, long before the Greek state:

    Originally Posted by danielmaco
    Northern Macedonia; 1900 - 1914



    Skopje, 31 out of 253, 1 in 8 people,12%

    Skopje; 0 out of 3

    Skoplije; 2 out of 2

    1 Elia,Itse Skoplije, Turkey 1907 21
    2 Paulo,Tome Skoplije, Turkey 1907 18

    Skopie; 3 out of 13

    1 Stoikoff,Dimitro Skopie, Turkey 1907 22
    2 Stojan,Dimitri Skopie, Turkey 1907 26
    3 Todoroff,Onton Skopie, Turkey, 1907 20

    Uskub; 26 out of 235

    1 Andon,Ontze Uskub, Turkey 1910 20
    2 Atze,Iovan Uskub, Turkey 1912 19
    3 Blajo,Todor Uskub, Turkey E 1912 39
    4 Costeff,Pantche Uskub, Turkey 1910 28
    5 Dinckhoff,Andren Uskub/Macedonia 1912 18
    6 Giorgi,Anton Uskub, Macedonia 1912 39
    7 Goreff,Traitre Uskub, Hungary 1912 28
    8 Kostaki,Georgi Uskub, Macedonia 1912 45
    9 Kotche,Georgi Uskub, Macedonia 1912 18
    10 Kristo,Milan P. Uskub 1906 28
    11 Krstr,Thodor Uskub, Turkey 1912 18
    12 Marco,Risto Uskub 1907 31
    13 Miladin,Blageo Uskub 1907 22
    14 Mitrovitch,Pero Uskub, Macedonia, T E 1913 28
    15 Nikolits,Slovodanka Uskub, Servia 1914 30
    16 Nikolits,Taschko Uskub, Servia 1914 5
    17 Papas-Eftim,Kosta Uskub, T.E. 1907 23
    18 Petre,Thoma Uskub 1906 18
    19 Plaveva,Cena Uskub, Turkey 1911 20
    20 Sasdoff,Traitche Uskub, Macedonia 1907 19
    21 Trayanoff,Petro Uskub, Servia T E 1913 40
    22 Trprcovitch,Bogdan Uskub, T E 1913 20
    23 Tsvetco,Costa Occho Uskub, Macevonia 1910 17
    24 Tsvetco,Decho Uskub, Macevonia 1910 37
    25 Yaneff,Nicolas Uskub, Kaisolunda 1912 33
    26 Zafir,Dimitche Uskub, Turkey 1910 28


    Ohrid, 36 out of 287, 1 in 8 people,12%

    Ohrid; 14 out of 153

    1 Bacaloff,Efftim Ohrid, Macedonia 1910 33
    2 Dimitre,Stefan Ohrida, Macedonia 1912 26
    3 Doukoff,Kliment Ohrid, Macedonia 1912 28
    4 Jordam,Simonoff Ohrida, Turkey 1910 41
    5 Kalaydjieff,Dimitre Ohrida, Macedon Turk. En. 1907 27
    6 Krstanof,Georgis Ohrida 1907 21
    7 Lenka,Stoyan Ohrid, Turkey 1910 18
    8 Lestaroff,Stovre F. Ohrid, Macedonia 1910 31
    9 Risko,Anasta Ohrida, Turkey 1910 31
    10 Sirma,Lambora Ohrid, Turkey 1910 19
    11 Spassoff,Hia Ohrid, Macedonia 1912 35
    12 Stefan,Petro Ohrid, Turkey E. 1909 35
    13 Steloff,Blaze Ohrid Monastir 1906 41
    14 Strezoff,Peter Ohrid Monastir 1906 25

    Ochrida; 22 out of 134

    1 Alexo,Naido Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 21
    2 Binbiloff,Silian Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 18
    3 Binbiloff,Tzvetan Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 20
    4 Bojin,Fraitche Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 18
    5 Christo,tzamis Ochrida, Macedonia 1907 18
    6 Constaminoff,Smili Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 19
    7 Ghorghieff,Kesko Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 27
    8 Jovanoff,Robe Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 38
    9 Jovantche',Costa Ochrida, Macedonia 1912 18
    10 Kaneotcheff,Stefan Ochrid, Bulgaria 1914 19
    11 Klime,Maoum Ochrida 1907 38
    12 Klime,Tzamis Ochrida, Macedonia 1907 22
    13 Kostoff,Josif Ochrida, Turkey 1910 25
    14 Mantcho,Stoyan Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 26
    15 Naumoff,Christo Ochrida, Turkey 1910 19
    16 Petko,Sorka Ochrida, Turkey 1912 23
    17 Petko,Stefanov Ochrida, Turkey 1912 28
    18 Risteff,Milosch Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 29
    19 Spase,Christo Ochrida, Turkey 1910 23
    20 Tasseff,Bojin Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 30
    21 Tasseff,Riste Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 38
    22 Velian,Tilo Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 16


    Prilep, 77 out of 255, 1 in 3 people, 30%

    Prilep; 77 out of 255

    1 Andrea,Angeleff Prilep, Turkey 1910 44
    2 Athanas,Todor Prilep, Turkey 1909 27
    3 Atseff,Georghi Prilep, Turkey 1907 20
    4 Atseff,Yodor Prilep, Macedonia. 1907 35
    5 Atzef,Giorgi Prilep, Turkey 1909 23
    6 Boche,Jovan Prilep, Turkey 1909 26
    7 Bojinoff,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1907 25
    8 Christoff,Milan Prilepe, Macedonia 1910 30
    9 Dame,Soter Prilep, Turkey 1909 16
    10 Dameff,Theodor Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 19
    11 Dime,Atanas Prilep, Turkey 1909 26
    12 Dime,Nicola Prilep, Turkey 1909 31
    13 Dime,Stoyan Prilep, Turkey 1907 28
    14 Dimko,Petreff Prilep, Turkey E. 1910 26
    15 Dimoff,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1907 23
    16 Gleorgeff,Sofir Prilep, TE 1910 26
    17 Govanova,Para Prilep, Turkey 1910 25
    18 Govantche,Tode Prilep, Turkey 1909 18
    19 Hristo,Ivanoff Prilep, Turkey or Greece 1911 33
    20 Ileff,Vasa Prilep, Macedonia 1912 30
    21 Iloff,Jovan Prilep, Macedonia 1912 31
    22 Ilya,Kiseff Kostoff Prilep 1904 33
    23 Ivanoff,Atonas Prilep, Macedonia 1910 20
    24 Jordan,Tlateff Saloff Prilep 1904 23
    25 Jovanoff,Stefan Prilep, Macedonia 1912 15
    26 Koncff,Petre Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 20
    27 Krste,Spiro Prilep, Turkey 1909 18
    28 Milan,Naneff Prilep 1904 18
    29 Milan,Yovanceff Prilep 1904 19
    30 Mitreff,Boshe Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
    31 Mitro,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1907 28
    32 Najdoff,Iboyan Prilep 1905 30
    33 Neckko,Wilan Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
    34 Nicolie,Risto Prilep, Turkey 1907 33
    35 Nicoloff,Stojan Prilep, Turkey 1907 18
    36 Nikola,Filip Prilep, Turkey 1905 28
    37 Ordan,Arhimadridoff Prilep 1904 26
    38 Orvan,Tovanteleff Prilep, Macedonia 1910 31
    39 Petre,Angel Prilep, Turkey 1909 30
    40 Petro,Ivan Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
    41 Petrolf,Johan Prilep, Macedonia 1911 24
    42 Risteff,Krsti Prilepi, Turkey 1910 26
    43 Risteff,Todor Prilep, Turkey 1910 34
    44 Rizoff,Mile Prilep, Turkey 1907 45
    45 Ronjevich,Dimitri Prileppe Turkey 1913 22
    46 Same,Iovan Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 19
    47 SIMONOFF,TLIJA PRILEP 1905 31
    48 Slave,Georgieff Prilep, Turkey 1905 21
    49 Spasse,Mirtcheff Prilep, Macedonia 1909 19
    50 Spiro,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 22
    51 Spiro,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 16
    52 Stankof,Spase Prilep, Macedonia 1910 37
    53 Stephan,Petret Prilep, Macedonia 1910 41
    54 Stojanoff,Petre Prilep 1905 30
    55 Storzan,Dimeff Prilep, Macedonia 1910 28
    56 Tale,Stefan Prilep, Turkey 1907 35
    57 Tarpe,Dimitre Prilep/Turkey 1907 25
    58 Tasseff,Pana Prilep, Turkey 1910 18
    59 Tasseva,Gena Prilep, Turkey 1910 18
    60 Tode,Koneff Prilep 1904 22
    61 Tode,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 22
    62 Todor,Milon Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
    63 Traico,Boch. Prilep, Turkey 1907 22
    64 Traico,Filip Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
    65 Trayan,Naido Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
    66 Trayan,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
    67 Traycuff,Krste Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 18
    68 Trazcovitch,Stamenco Prilep, Macedonia 1913 29
    69 TROANKCHOFF,ORDAN PRILEP 1905 25
    70 Troikoff,Maria Prilep 1904 4
    71 Troikoff,Mika Kosteva Prilep 1904 28
    72 Vassye,Mihal Prilep, Macedonia 1909 19
    73 VELE,TALEFF PRILEPE, TURKEY 1910 37
    74 Veleff,Dine Prilep, Turkey 1907 29
    75 Veleff,Milan Prilep, Turkey 1907 22
    76 Yovantche,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1909 23
    77 Zuetcoff,Trenko Prilep, Turkey 1907 44


    Prespa, 12 out of 37, 1 in 3, 32%

    Prespa; 12 out of 37

    1 Dime,Michal Prespa, Maced. 1909 25
    2 Dimo,Yossep Prespa, Maced. 1909 30
    3 Georgui,Stoyan Prespa, Maced. 1909 19
    4 Gherman,Risto Prespa, Turkey 1907 27
    5 Guerman,Risto Prespa, Maced. 1909 28
    6 Krstin,Risto Prespa 1904 37
    7 Naki,Stefo Prespa, Maced. 1909 21
    8 Naum,Stefan Prespa 1904 28
    9 Nitcho,Simon Prespa, Turkey 1912 24
    10 Spiro,Marco Prespa, Maced. 1909 23
    11 Stoyan,Risto Prespa 1904 33
    12 Yani,Constantin Prespa, Turkey 1909 29


    Tetovo, 16 out of 125, 1 in 8 people, 13%

    Tetovo; 16 out of 125

    1 Bojin,Nestor Tetovo 1907 31
    2 Dimitroitch,Nicolo Tetovo, TE 1910 22
    3 Dune,Ristov Tetovo 1905 34
    4 Galo,Kiro Tetovo, Bulgaria 1913 31
    5 Gavril,Simon Tetovo, Macedonia 1912 20
    6 Gheore,Mihailo Tetovo 1906 24
    7 Gherassim,Stefan Tetovo, Bulgaria 1913 28
    8 Ilia,Blaje Tetovo 1907 19
    9 Michoff,Andro Tetovo, Macedonia 1910 37
    10 Mihal,Alexandre Tetovo, Turkey 1911 19
    11 Nicola,Eoma Tetovo 1907 26
    12 Petre,Mihal Tetovo, Turkey 1911 26
    13 Simian,Stoyan Tetovo 1907 30
    14 Yerosinoff,Yovan Tetovo 1907 27
    15 Yoftche,Yossif Tetovo 1907 33
    16 Zwetko,Gyorgy Tetovo 1905 16


    Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%

    Bitola; 12 out of 39

    1 Bozin,Stefan Bitolak, Turkey 1907 25
    2 Constantin,Wasil Bitola 1906 15
    3 Fovanof,Cuetan Bitola 1904 24
    4 Gheorgluff,Mitsi Bitola, Turkey 1910 31
    5 Janas,Tole Bitola, Turkey 1910 34
    6 Kristo,Zlia Bitola, Bulgaria 1910 17
    7 Mikal,Gheorghi Bitola 1907 21
    8 Mitre,Eale Bitola 1907 36
    9 Mitre,Tacko Bitola, Macedonia 1913 32
    10 Riste,Fzdam Bitolak, Turkey 1907 26
    11 Spiro,Iovan Bitola 1907 29
    12 Velian,Talse Bitolak, Turkey 1907 25


    Bitolia; 7 out of 51

    1 Amastas,Milos Bitolia, Gurkish 1906 35
    2 Andreas,Christo Bitolia 1904 17
    3 Consta,Dimitrios Bitolia 1904 17
    4 Dunoff,Fazar Bitolia, Macedonia 1912 42
    5 Hain,Jacob Bitolia, Gurkish 1906 25
    6 Naoum,Consta Bitolia 1904 19
    7 Panaghiot,Christo Bitolia 1904 17


    Bitolj; 15 out of 43

    1 Constantin,Hristo Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 21
    2 Cretco,Dimo Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 23
    3 Cuzma,Mitze Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 18
    4 Gule,Dine Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 30
    5 Lazo,Michael Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 21
    6 Mitchu,Vani Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 22
    7 Nikola,Costa Bitolj, Servia 1914 45
    8 Nikola,Gligor Bitolj, Servia 1914 12
    9 Pesche,Nicola Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 18
    10 Tanas,Petre Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 23
    11 Tassi,Doni Bitolj 1907 30
    12 Vangel,Vassil Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 25
    13 Vani,Cristo Pavle Bitolj 1907 15
    14 Vassil,Petre Bitolj 1907 37
    15 Vassiloff,Theodor Bitolje 1906 20


    Manastir; 21 out of 76

    1 Atse,Christo Manastir, Macedonia, E. Turkey 1910 28
    2 Blageff,Ivan Manastir, Turkey 1912 26
    3 Crste,Mahalie Manastir, Turkey 1909 17
    4 Daneff,Zarie Manastir, Turkey 1912 30
    5 Dellv,Petre Manastir, Turkey 1909 20
    6 Georgitch,Dimitr Manastir, Turkey 1912 26
    7 Gheorghi,Dimitre Manastir, Macedonia 1910 33
    8 Kaamn,Yovan Manastir, Macedonia, E. Turkey 1910 29
    9 Konstantinan,Stavio Manastir, Macedonia 1910 35
    10 Konstantinan,Yaanon Manastir, Macedonia 1910 32
    11 Melko,Stefan Manastir, Macedonian 1909 24
    12 Mitv,Tole Manastir, Turkey 1909 21
    13 Nicohoff,Risto Manastir, Turkey 1912 23
    14 Nicoloff,Gligor Manastir, Turkey 1912 19
    15 Petko,Ilia Manastir/Turque 1905 32
    16 Restv,Vane Manastir, Turkey 1909 26
    17 Riste,Spiro Manastir, Macedonia 1910 22
    18 Stergiv,Georgi Manastir, Turkey 1909 19
    19 T...v,Pelko Manastir, Turkey 1909 40
    20 Velianaff,Iov... Manastir, T.E. 1912 30
    21 Vretta,Mihail Manastir, Macedonia 1910 18


    Monastir; 567 out of 3493

    1 ...noff,Hanos Monastir. Macedonia 1907 40
    2 Abdul Moustafa,Amzo Monastir, Turkey 1911 18
    3 Abdulhalim,Abdualman Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
    4 Adem,Cherif Monastir, Turkey 1910 36
    5 Agnenovitz,Velus Monastir 1906 22
    6 Alabak,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 32
    7 Alamed,Assini Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
    8 Alexo,Tome Monastir, Turkey 1905 31
    9 Anastas,Asseff Monastir, Turkey 1910 25
    10 Anastas,Choma Monastir, Macedonia 1910 30
    11 Anastas,Pantele Monastir 1906 26
    12 Anastas,Vangnel Monastir 1906 17
    13 Anaztas,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1909 36
    14 Andon,Petre Monastirr 1906 25
    15 Andreff,Naki Monastir, Turkey 1909 24
    16 Andronoff,Boris Monastir, Bulgary 1911 28
    17 Angele,Stesso Monastir 1906 21
    18 Anghele,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1905 19
    19 Anghele,Stavre Monastir 1907 39
    20 Apostol,Bogone Monastir 1907 19
    21 Apostol,Velian Monastir, Maced. 1913 19
    22 Arqherios,Christian Monastir, Maced 1907 19
    23 Atanas,Ghiorghi Monastir, Turkey 1910 32
    24 Athanas,Christin Monastir, Popei 1908 21
    25 Athanas,Christon Monastir, Turkey 1905 23
    26 Athanas,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 18
    27 Athanas,Michael Monastir 1906 19
    28 Athanas,Naoum Monastir 1906 22
    29 Athanas,Nicolas Monastir 1906 29
    30 Atze,Risto Monastir 1906 21
    31 Avram,Marco Monastir 1906 27
    32 Awram,Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1909 16
    33 Bagio,Schauto Monastir, Macedonia 1910 31
    34 Bagoje,Mitre Monastir, Turkey A 1907 21
    35 Blaje,Dime Monastir, Turkey 1905 20
    36 Blaji,Boche Monastir 1906 20
    37 Blaji,Riste Monastir 1903 26
    38 Boboia,Fraiciu Monastir 1905 18
    39 Boche,Mirre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 33
    40 Boche,Petre Monastir 1906 19
    41 Boche,Tole Monastir, Macedonia 1907 28
    42 Bochko,George Monastir, Turkey 1911 30
    43 Bogatin,Yovan Monastir 1906 22
    44 Bogdan,Iadro Monastir, Turkey 1907 21
    45 Bogin,Ylio Monastir, Macedonia 1912 34
    46 Bogine,Vele Monastir, Turkey 1910 17
    47 Bogoja,Paole Monastir 1907 21
    48 Bogoya,Petro Monastir, Macedonia 1910 20
    49 Bogoya,Tane Monastir 1906 27
    50 Bogoyevits,Ipasse Monastir 1906 22
    51 Bojin,Mitre Monastir 1906 29
    52 Bojin,Stoitche Monastir 1906 33
    53 Bojm,Dimo Monastir, Turkey 1910 30
    54 Bosilko,Atanas Monastir 1904 41
    55 Bozim,Mitre Monastir 1904 17
    56 Bozim,Thodor Monastir 1904 30
    57 Bozin,Vassil Monastir 1905 31
    58 Bozinof,Milan Monastir 1906 20
    59 Cato,Lazop Monastir, Macedonia 1910 45
    60 Cato,P...gh Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
    61 Cenas,Hristo Monastir 1906 16
    62 Chevik,Ramadan Zairam Monastir, Turkey E 1911 32
    63 Chili,Nicola Monastir 1904 21
    64 Chosbedin,Zoulficar Monastir 1906 16
    65 Christie,Nicolas Monastir 1904 29
    66 Christo,Dimitraki Monastir, Turkey 1910 1
    67 Christo,Ivanoff Monastir, Turkey 1905
    68 Christo,Michael Monastir 1906 20
    69 Christo,Petre Monastir 1905 29
    70 Christo,Sophia Monastir, Turkey 1910 22
    71 Christoff,Kire Monastir 1906 28
    72 Christophorides,Philippe Monastir 1904 20
    73 Cleriocican,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
    74 Cole,Petko Monastir 1905 34
    75 Cole,Sovan Monastir 1905 28
    76 Cole,Tezo Monastir 1906 21
    77 Coli,Stefo Monastir, Gherman, Turkey E. 1909 39
    78 Colic,Riste Monastir, Macedonia 1907 18
    79 Constantin,Alexion Monastir 1906 18
    80 Constantin,Paole Monastir 1906 25
    81 Cossoff,Lazer Monastir 1907 31
    82 Costa,Gligor Monastir, Maced. 1913 17
    83 Costa,Spiro Monastir 1906 19
    84 Costantin,Cotcho Monastir, Turkey 1905 13
    85 Coste,Petreff Monastir, Turkey 1913 18
    86 Costof,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 18
    87 Cotcho,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
    88 Cote,Sekoule Monastir 1906 32
    89 Craico,Naoum Monastir 1906 39
    90 Criste,Criste Monastir 1907 19
    91 Criste,Veloff Monastir 1906 32
    92 Danail,Anastasse Monastir 1906 18
    93 Delio,Costa Monastir, Turkey 1913 30
    94 Dello,Nicolas Monastir 1906 31
    95 Dello,Nole Monastir 1906 29
    96 Dello,Petro Monastir 1905 38
    97 Dime,Lazar Monastir 1906 39
    98 Dime,Marko Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
    99 Dimietrievitz,Trenko Monastir 1906 23
    100 Dimiter,Giagi Monastir 1904 29
    101 Dimitre,Vassil Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
    102 Dimitri,Apostol Monastir, Turkey 1913 40
    103 Dimitri,Christo Monastir, Turkey 1913 29
    104 Dimitri,Gheorghi Monastir 1907 16
    105 Dimitri,Lazor Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
    106 Dimitri,Nicola Monastir 1906 25
    107 Dimitri,Sava Monastir, Turkey 1910 24
    108 Dimitri,Tapas Monastir 1907 17
    109 Dimitri,Theodor Monastir 1905 19
    110 Dimitrion,Nicolaos Monastir 1905 22
    111 Dimitroff,Georgi Monastir, Macedonia 1907 20
    112 Dimitroff,Jovantche Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
    113 Dimitroff,Stoyan Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 29
    114 Dimkoff,Ilia Monastir 1906 19
    115 Dimoff,Traytche Monastir, Macedonia 1910 29
    116 Dina,Marios Monastir, Macedonia 1906 20
    117 Dine,Panto Monastir 1906 22
    118 Dinef Zawan,Dinef Zawan Monastir 1906 40
    119 Djemail,Daont Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 20
    120 Dondonloff,Anton G. Monastir, Turkey 1907 39
    121 Dondonloff,Kriste D. Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
    122 Done,Constantinos Monastir, Turkey 1905 35
    123 Done,Mitre Monastir 1906 23
    124 Doneff,Christo Monastir 1906 23
    125 Doneff,Todor Monastir 1906 17
    126 Dore,Nicolas Monastir 1906 21
    127 Dortchine,Strebre Monastir 1906 23
    128 Elia,Georges Monastir, Manastre 1908 29
    129 File,Anastase Monastir 1906 23
    130 File,Bojin Monastir 1905 50
    131 File,Tirptche Monastir 1904 24
    132 Fonah,Traiko Monastir, Macedonia 1906 35
    133 Foti,Thomas Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 19
    134 Founowzoff,Lazlo T. Monastir, Turkey 1912 45
    135 Fozi,Jean George Monastir 1905 20
    136 Fozi,Sotirios Nicolas Monastir 1905 19
    137 Fraico,Vangel Monastir, Turkey 1912 19
    138 Fraytsche,Che...r Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
    139 Gatso,Papa Constantin Monastir 1906 20
    140 Georges,Alexo Monastir, Turkey 1911 17
    141 Georghi,Constantin Monastir 1905 16
    142 Georghi,Demetri Monastir 1905 20
    143 Georghi,Ilia Monastir 1905 27
    144 Georghi,Ilija Monastir, Macedonia 1909 26
    145 Georgi,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1907 21
    146 Georgihi,Vassil Monastir 1906 19
    147 Ghele,Vassil Monastir 1906 30
    148 Gheorghi,Dimitri Monastir 1906 19
    149 Gheorghi,Iovan Monastir 1906 19
    150 Gheorghi,Mitre Monastir 1906 19
    151 Gheorghi,Mitse Monastir, Turkey 1905 39
    152 Gheorghi,Nicola Monastir 1906 28
    153 Gheorghi,Nikola Monastir, Turkey 1911 41
    154 Gheorghi,Petco Monastir 1906 22
    155 Gheorghi,Petre Monastir 1906 27
    156 Gheorghi,Petre Monastir 1906 29
    157 Gheorghi,Risto Monastir 1906 20
    158 Gheorof,Todor Monastir 1906 26
    159 Ghermani,Borgoia Monastir 1906 24
    160 Ghiorghi,Andre Monastir 1904 18
    161 Ghiorghi,Trayco Monastir, Macedonia 1909 33
    162 Ghiorghi Hrisla,Spiro Monastir, Macedonia 1911 40
    163 Ghiorgi,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
    164 Ghitche,File Monastir 1906 29
    165 Ginorgur,Petre Monastir 1904 30
    166 Giorgi,Yassil Monastir, Maced. 1910 20
    167 Giorgi,Zimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1910 17
    168 Giorgie,Jovan Monastir, Macedonia 1912 39
    169 Giorgieff,Konstandin Monastir, Macedonia 1907 27
    170 Gitse,Constantin Monastir 1906 31
    171 Gligor,Hristo Monastir, Turkey 1907 23
    172 Gniorgnieff,Spiro Monastir 1905 16
    173 Gnocheff,Christo Monastir 1905 42
    174 Goche,Alexo Monastir 1907 25
    175 Gogon,Christo Sive Monastir 1906 22
    176 Gotche,Mitrche Monastir 1907 23
    177 Grozdam,Petre Monastir 1906 46
    178 Guiorgni,Marko Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
    179 Guiorgui,Petre Pop Monastir 1905 32
    180 Haralamb,Stoitche Monastir 1905 26
    181 Hristo,Anghele Monastir 1904 25
    182 Hristo,Kralo Monastir 1905 17
    183 Ilio,Gheorghi Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
    184 Ilio,Risto Monastir 1906 16
    185 Illin,Miliorilo Monastir 1906 40
    186 Illo,Petro Monastir 1905 22
    187 Ilo,Alexo Monastir 1906 28
    188 Ilo,Constandine Monastir 1906 25
    189 Ilo,Marco Monastir 1905 20
    190 Iovan,Christe Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
    191 Iovan,Ghiorghi Monastir 1906 34
    192 Iovan,Vassil Monastir 1906 18
    193 Itzo,Marco Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
    194 Itzof,Milan Monastir, Turkey 1907 25
    195 Ivanoff,Georgi Monastir, Turkey 1910 31
    196 Janaki,Vasunitche Monastir, Turkey 1905 23
    197 Janeff,Petre Monastir 1905 23
    198 Janko,Dimitri Monastir 1904 18
    199 Jerman,Gheorge Monastir, Macedonia 1913 17
    200 Jlia,Louis Monastir, Macedonia 1912 0
    201 Jlia,Simonof Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
    202 Joan,Anastas Monastir, Maced. 1912 18
    203 Joffche,Riste Monastir 1904 42
    204 Josko Atself,Hioff Monastir, Turkey 1912 23
    205 Josnes,Christoff Monastir 1905 26
    206 Jovan,Christo Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
    207 Jovan,Dimitrie Monastir 1906 19
    208 Jovan,Lazor Monastir 1904 20
    209 Jovan,Nicola Monastir 1905 35
    210 Jovan,Nicolas Monastir, Macedonia 1907 39
    211 Jovan,Vassil Monastir, Turkey 1907 30
    212 Karafil,Anastas Monastir 1904 19
    213 Karamphil,Jovan Monastir 1905 30
    214 Karanfilsvitch,Panajote Monastir, Turkey 1909 25
    215 Karatic,Ivdor Monastir 1904 21
    216 Khalajian,Parsegh Monastir 1906 25
    217 Kiazim Moustafa,Redjep Monastir, Turkey E. 1911 30
    218 Kitanoff,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
    219 Kizste,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 28
    220 Klimo,Ylio Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
    221 Kole,Mitre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 30
    222 Kole,Mitse Monastir, Turkey 1913 25
    223 Kolef,Giore Monastir, Turkey 1907 36
    224 Kosta,Elia Monastir, Turkey 1908 25
    225 Kostena,Olga Monastir, Turkey 1910 11
    226 Kostena,Vansilkaj Monastir, Turkey 1910 20
    227 Kosti,Alexdre. Skalera Monastir 1906 17
    228 Kosti,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1907 19
    229 Kostic,Nedelco Monastir 1903 29
    230 Kostoff,Ilo Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
    231 Kote,Mikal Monastirr 1906 20
    232 Kote,Tanco Monastir 1904 36
    233 Kouzman,Eyrptecke Monastir 1906 39
    234 Kozman,Athanas Monastir 1907 25
    235 Krist,Tidol Monastir 1904 27
    236 Kriste,Petre Monastir 1903 49
    237 Kristo,Cole Monastir 1906 19
    238 Krste,Gheorghi Monastir 1905 18
    239 Kyrste,Stefo Monastir 1905 19
    240 Laki,Naoum Monastir 1907 26
    241 Laza,Atanos Monastir 1906 16
    242 Lazaros,Jaonon Monastir 1906 24
    243 Lazer,Anghele Monastir 1906 22
    244 Lazeroff,Nester Monastir 1906 36
    245 Lazo,Coleff Monastir 1906 18
    246 Lazo,Georgieff Monastir, Turkey 1907 35
    247 Lazor,Petre Monastir, Turkey 1913 19
    248 Lazor,Stefan Monastir, Turkey 1910 19
    249 Leonida,Michail Monastir, Macedonia 1907 15
    250 Ligor,Lazar Monastir 1904 23
    251 Ligor,Riste Monastir 1906 33
    252 Maninoff,Risto Monastir, Turkie 1910 22
    253 Marco,Stephan Monastir 1907 23
    254 Marco,Thoma Monastir 1906 24
    255 Marko,Doitzin Monastir, Macedonia 1907 33
    256 Marko,Ilia Monastir, Macedonia 1907 36
    257 Markoff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
    258 Maun,Risto Monastir 1906 39
    259 Mavre,Petse Monastir 1906 30
    260 Medelco,Teodore Monastir, Donponi 1908 19
    261 Michal,Petre Monastir 1906 19
    262 Miche,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1913 23
    263 Mihael,Nicola Monastir, Coritsa 1908 19
    264 Mihal,Tovor Monastir, Donponi 1908 25
    265 Miheile,Gheoro Monastir 1906 18
    266 Mihri,Thoti Monastir, Donponi 1908 19
    267 Mikaeloff,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    268 Mile,Kote Monastir 1905 19
    269 Mile?,Stefan Monastir 1906 44
    270 Milo,Alexo Monastir 1907 21
    271 Mirtetri,Frenko Monastir 1906 25
    272 Mirtike,Stoyan Monastir, Maced. 1912 17
    273 Mirtze,George Monastir 1904 22
    274 Mitcho,Tale Monastir, Turkey 1907 34
    275 Miti,Nicolaus Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 19
    276 Mito,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
    277 Mitre,File Monastir 1906 22
    278 Mitre,Georghi Monastir 1907 36
    279 Mitre,Ilo Monastir 1905 18
    280 Mitre,Marko Monastir 1906 25
    281 Mitre,Nicola Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
    282 Mitreff,Marko Monastir, Turkey 1911 42
    283 Mitri,Stefo Monastir 1904 45
    284 Mitsa,Stoykol Monastir, Turkey 1909 27
    285 Mitse,Dello Monastir, Turkey 1905 34
    286 Mitse,Stefo Monastir, Turkey 1905 45
    287 Mitseff,Spirko Monastir 1906 17
    288 Mitze,Christo Monastir, Turkey 1909 34
    289 Mitze,Risteff Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
    290 Mitze,Traitche Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
    291 Moianoff,Illie Dime Monastir 1905 18
    292 Mourgof,Yosse Monastir 1906 28
    293 Mowatche,Stefo Monastir 1906 30
    294 Myron,Grigoria... Monastir, Macedonia 1906 18
    295 Naeonoff,Nicola Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
    296 Naido,Nicolas Monastir 1907 26
    297 Naikanoff,Elia Monastir 1906 22
    298 Naki,Filip Monastir 1907 21
    299 Naonne,Jossif Monastir 1905 41
    300 Naorun,Petro Monastir, Macedonia 1907 16
    301 Naoum,Cote Monastir 1907 22
    302 Naoum,Gligor Monastir, Turkey 1909 28
    303 Naoum,Tachof Monastir, Turkey 1904 17
    304 Naoumtche,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 25
    305 Naoumtebe,Iovan Monastir 1906 48
    306 Nasum,Paole Monastir, Turkey 1905 37
    307 Natso,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 22
    308 Naumoff,Riste Monastir, Turkey 1912 23
    309 Naumtche,Bogdan Monastir, Turky, E. 1910 31
    310 Nedan,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1913 26
    311 Nedelco,Vanghuel Monastir, Greece 1913 28
    312 Nedelko,Riste Monastir 1904 22
    313 Nestor,Spiro Monastir 1907 19
    314 Nicola,Chomaki Monastir, Macedonia 1910 19
    315 Nicola,Costandisr Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
    316 Nicolas,Dimitre Monastir 1906 26
    317 Nicolas,Va... Monastir 1907 35
    318 Nicolof,Storan Monastir 1906 23
    319 Nicoloff,Stavre Monastir 1906 25
    320 Nicoloff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 28
    321 Nikoli,Athanas Monastir, Turkey 1911 39
    322 Nikoloff,Dico Monastir, Turkie 1910 20
    323 Nikoloff,Traiko Monastir, Macedonia 1906 22
    324 Noeri,George Monastir, Turkey 1907 36
    325 Noneff,Nicola Monastir 1905 34
    326 Nsiola,Trofir Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
    327 Ordan,Itcho Monastir 1906 25
    328 Orolem,Nicola Monastir 1905 31
    329 Osman,Numan Monastir, Turkey 1910 29
    330 Panaele,Stoyan Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
    331 Pandeli,Andon Monastir 1906 24
    332 Pandelis,Theodoran Monastir, Servia 1914 38
    333 Pandellis,Naoum Monastir 1906 28
    334 Paole,Spyro Monastir 1904 23
    335 Papadimitrion,Jean Monastir 1905 24
    336 Parche,File Tomey Monastir 1906 21
    337 Pargon,Nicolas Monastir 1906 18
    338 Pelkov,Anastac Monastir 1905 22
    339 Petre,Iwan Monastir 1906 24
    340 Petre,Joran Monastir, Italy 1910 33
    341 Petre,Parel Monastir 1904 20
    342 Petre,Tanas Monastir 1906 31
    343 Petre,Waido Monastir 1906 14
    344 Petref,Dime Monastir 1906 35
    345 Petreff,Krste Monastir, Macedon 1907 31
    346 Petreff,Paole Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
    347 Petreff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 34
    348 Petrefo,Iovan Monastir 1906 24
    349 Petri,Vassil Monastir 1906 21
    350 Petrie,Simon Monastir 1906 32
    351 Petro,Demitre Monastir 1906 22
    352 Petro,Elia Monastir 1906 23
    353 Petse,Stefo Monastir 1905 28
    354 Phote,Ylia Monastir 1906 22
    355 Poffkoff,Krste Monastir 1904 19
    356 Pueorgui,Petro Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
    357 Resteff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
    358 Risko,Vassil Monastir 1906 23
    359 Ristana,Christowa Monastir, Turkey 1910 40
    360 Riste,Alexo Monastir 1906 21
    361 Riste,Constantin Monastir, Macedonia 1908 24
    362 Riste,Dimitri Monastir 1904 21
    363 Riste,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 49
    364 Riste,Petre Monastir 1907 20
    365 Riste,Petreff Monastir, Turkey 1912 24
    366 Ristef,Nicola Monastir 1906 26
    367 Risto,Anastas Monastir 1905 21
    368 Risto,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1907 32
    369 Risto,Jane Monastir 1905 21
    370 Risto,Lazor Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
    371 Risto,Naum Monastir 1905 21
    372 Risto,Petre Monastir 1906 27
    373 Riza Tahero,Zeinel Monastir, Turkey 1911 30
    374 Roche,Gheorghi Monastir, Macedonia 1910 20
    375 Ropi,Thomas Monastir 1906 28
    376 Sakineff,Kone Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
    377 Save,Boje Monastir, Turley 1907 38
    378 Sckoulof,Mirtse Monastir 1906 26
    379 Secoula,Alexi Monastir, Merk 1911 27
    380 Secoule?,Ilo Monastir 1906 19
    381 Sfetco,Ane Monastir, Turkey 1907 30
    382 Sfetko,Risto Monastir 1904 32
    383 Simeon,Kiro Monastir 1906 40
    384 Simon,Passe Monastir, Macedonia 1907 30
    385 Simota,F. Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1907 25
    386 Sober,Michal Monastir, Turkey 1909 25
    387 Sofka,Stefan Petreva Monastir, Turkey 1910 51
    388 Sokol,Riste Monastir 1906 21
    389 Sotir,Dimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
    390 Sotir,Nestar Monastir 1907 27
    391 Sotir,Paulof Monastir 1906 30
    392 Sotir,Tome Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
    393 Sotir,Volceni Monastir 1905 22
    394 Sotis,Lozar Monastir, Turkey 1909 27
    395 Spadeff,Ilo Monastir, Macedonia 1912 20
    396 Spase,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1909 35
    397 Spasse,Todor Monastir, Macedonia 1907 31
    398 Spetcoff,Kyre Monastir 1907 15
    399 Spiro,Costa Monastir, Turkey 1909 38
    400 Spiro,Kazie Monastir 1907 20
    401 Spiro,Pano Monastir 1903 29
    402 Spiro,Simo Monastir 1907 36
    403 Spiro,Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
    404 Spiro,Stefo Monastir 1906 33
    405 Spiro,Tale Monastir 1904 24
    406 Spiroff,Milan Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
    407 Spiroff,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
    408 Sposse,Forghi Monastir 1904 18
    409 Stanko,Shilan Monastir, Turkey 1912 28
    410 Stasse,Cole Monastir 1906 21
    411 Stasse,Cole Monastir 1906 22
    412 Stavre,Grosdan Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
    413 Stavreff,Traico Monastir 1907 16
    414 Stawre,Nicola Monastir 1905 29
    415 Stayan,Ivan Monastir, Turkey 1912 35
    416 Stcheff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
    417 Stefan,Atanas Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
    418 Stefaneff,Boche Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
    419 Stefo,Kanas Monastir 1906 22
    420 Stefo,Kire Monastir 1906 29
    421 Stefo,Pande Monastir 1906 24
    422 Stenioff,Stryan Iop Monastir, Macevonia 1910 22
    423 Stephan,Joran Monastir, Maced. 1912 30
    424 Stephanon,Sotirios Monastir 1906 25
    425 Sterghio,Mihalaki Monastir 1906 28
    426 Stergio,Constantin Monastir 1905 28
    427 Sterio,Dimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1907 38
    428 Stevanoffa,Elena Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
    430 Stirio,Lazar Monastir, Donponi 1908 18
    431 Stoian,Lazar Monastir 1905 26
    432 Stoian,Traian Monastir 1905 21
    433 Stoicke,Risto Monastir 1906 40
    434 Stoicke,Stesso Monastir 1906 38
    435 Stoico,Gheorghi Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
    436 Stoicoff,Alexander Monastir 1906 25
    437 Stoiga,Petro Monastir 1906 18
    438 Stoiko,Mitze Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    439 Stoiko,Svetko Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    440 Stoikoff,Bojun Monastir, Turkey 1912 19
    441 Stoitche,Jovan Monastir 1905 30
    442 Stoitche,Petre Monastir 1906 38
    443 Stoitche,Petre Monastir 1906 39
    444 Stoitche,Risko Monastir 1906 33
    445 Stoitze,Temelko Monastir, Macedonia 1907 27
    446 Stojtsche,Lazar Monastir 1903 46
    447 Storan,Nota Monastir 1906 24
    448 Stoyan,Dino Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
    449 Stoyan,Ivanoff Monastir, Turkey 1912 14
    450 Stoyan,Namtze Monastir 1906 24
    451 Stoyan,Petre Monastir 1904 23
    452 Stoyan,Risto Monastir, Turkey 1913 40
    453 Stoyan,Risto Monastir, Turkey E. 1909 19
    454 Stoyan,Spetco Monastir, Gherman, Turkey E. 1909 25
    455 Stoyanoff,Todor Monastir, Turkey 1907 32
    456 Stoyanoff,Traico Monastir, Turkey 1909 19
    457 Stoyo,Ynan Monastir, Macedonia 1910 27
    458 Stoyscheff,Trarcan Monastir, Turkey 1909 28
    459 Strave,Glegov Monastir 1906 23
    460 Svetan,Stoyan Monastir 1906 25
    461 Svetko,Spiro Monastir 1906 23
    462 Tache,Yani Monastir 1905 23
    463 Tacheff,Stoyan Monastir, T.E. 1907 18
    464 Tachko,Trae Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
    465 Tale,Dimitri Monastir 1906 35
    466 Tale,Mihal Monastir 1906 24
    467 Talea,Petre Monastir 1905 28
    470 Talef,Dimo Monastir, Turkey 1910 31
    471 Taleff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    472 Taleff,Riste Monastir, Turkey 1912 22
    473 Taleff,Traian Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
    474 Tanas,Franco Monastir 1906 26
    475 Tarpteke,Karste Monastir, Turkey 1911 40
    476 Tasko,Efthim Thodor Monastir, Turkey 1912 1
    477 Tasse,Tode Monastir 1906 18
    478 Tasse,Yovantche Monastir, Turkey 1913 39
    479 Temelco,Jandro Monastir 1905 21
    480 Temelco,Pavel Monastir 1905 30
    481 Teodor,Ilia Monastir 1903 22
    482 Terykof,Coste Monastir 1906 16
    483 Thome?,Dimitri Monastir 1906 16
    484 Tilia,Atanas Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
    485 Timanoff,Constantin Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
    486 Tjolle,Filip Monastir 1907 25
    487 Tlia,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1913 22
    488 Tocheff,Strezo Monastir, Turkey 1907 42
    489 Todor,George Monastir 1906 21
    490 Todor,Spasse Monastir, Macedonia 1907 31
    491 Todoroff,Lazar Monastir 1905 18
    492 Todoroff,Vanghel Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 22
    493 Tome,Risto Monastir 1906 24
    494 Tossiloff,Georg Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
    495 Toughud,Chomas Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
    496 Toughuel,Ylia Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
    497 Tovanoff,Mile Monastir, Turkey 1911 18
    498 Tractche,Todor Monastir 1905 30
    499 Traian,Milan Monastir 1905 20
    500 Traiche,Ilo Monastir 1905 31
    501 Traicoff,Vassil Monastir 1907 16
    502 Traieu,Dumitru Monastir 1905 25
    503 Traiko,Christo Monastir 1906 18
    504 Traitche,Jovantche Monastir, Turkey E. 1912 22
    505 Traitche,Mitre Monastir 1906 38
    506 Traitche,Tanass Monastir, Turkey 1905 36
    507 Traithe,Athamas Monastir 1900 40
    508 Trapantche,Riste Monastir 1904 33
    509 Trayan,Nicola Monastir 1907 28
    510 Trayanoff,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 28
    511 Trayco,Lago Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 21
    512 Trayhan,Ilia Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
    513 Traytche,Lazor Monastir, Maced. T E 1911 18
    514 Trendo,Risto Monastir 1905 24
    515 Triadafilo,Lado Monastir 1906 38
    516 Troutche,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1910 22
    517 Tryfahon,Stoico Monastir, Turkey 1905 18
    518 Tsaitche,Vanc Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
    519 Tsertanoff,Tase Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
    520 Tsvetko,Aneff Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
    521 Vane,Risto Monastir, Turkey 1904 22
    522 Vaneff,Stoysche Monastir, Turkey 1909 23
    523 Vangel,Naoum Monastir, Turkey 1908 21
    524 Vanghel,Georgi Monastir, Macedonia 1912 24
    525 Vanghel,Risto Monastir 1907 23
    526 Vanghel,Vasil Monastir, Turkey 1907 40
    527 Vanghel,Vassil Monastir, Macedonia 1913 32
    528 Vangues,Tovor Monastir, Donponi 1908 18
    529 Vanne,Starre Monastir 1906 28
    530 Vasil,Stoian Monastir, Turkey 1912 33
    531 Vasiloff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    532 Vassel,Stefan Monastir, Macedonia 1912 35
    533 Vassil,Costa Monastir 1906 31
    534 Vassil,Ekodore Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
    535 Vassil,Lazor Monastir 1906 15
    536 Vassil,Naoum Monastir 1906 19
    537 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 29
    538 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 18
    539 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 15
    540 Vassil,Petre Monastir 1906 18
    541 Vassil,Petre Monastir 1906 34
    542 Vassil,Sadomer Monastir 1905 19
    543 Vassil,Spiro Monastir 1906 35
    544 Vassil,Stefo Monastir 1906 22
    545 Vassileff,Kosta Monastir, Macedonia 1907 26
    546 Vassileff,Petur Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
    547 Vassilof,Filip Monastir 1906 24
    548 Vassiloff,Nicolas Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
    549 Vaughel,Nedelco Monastir 1903 21
    550 Vaun,Risto Monastir 1900 27
    551 Vaun,Vasil Monastir 1900 19
    552 Velian,Yovan Monastir, Turkey 1909 20
    553 Velianoff,Stojan Monastir, Macedonia 1907 23
    554 Veliari,Kriste Monastir, Turkey 1905 31
    555 Velicum,Vangheli Monastir 1904 30
    556 Vicolaon,Petros Monastir 1907 28
    557 Waido,Jovan Monastir 1906 25
    558 Waidova,Ilinka Monastir 1906 20
    559 Waoum,Petre Monastir 1906 18
    560 Yanaki,Constantin Monastir 1906 31
    561 Yenikenla,Petros Monastir 1906 44
    562 Yorantze,Lambo Monastir, Turky 1910 40
    563 Yovan,Nico Monastir, Turkey 1912 42
    564 Yovan,Sekoula Monastir 1907 15
    565 Yoveniteke,Petre Monastir 1906 20
    566 Zdrave,Tabe Monastir 1905 40
    567 Zimitri,Ghiorgi Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0



    Combined statistics for these regions of northern Macedonia;

    Skopje, 31 out of 253, 1 in 8 people,12%
    Ohrid, 36 out of 287, 1 in 8 people,12%
    Prilep, 77 out of 255, 1 in 3 people, 30%
    Prespa, 12 out of 37, 1 in 3 people, 32%
    Tetovo, 16 out of 125, 1 in 8 people, 13%
    Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%


    Total for 793 out of 4450, 1 in 5 people, 18%

    Southern Macedonia; 1900 - 1914



    Voden, 55 out of 702, 1 in 12 people, 8%

    Voden; 55 out of 702

    1 Angheli,Jovan Vodena, Turkey 1907 28
    2 Anghilaki,Jorghi Vodena, Turkey 1907 23
    3 Carathanos,Nicola Vodena, Greece 1913 32
    4 Chrastodle,Sophokli Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
    5 Christo,...itse Dine Vodena 1906 30
    6 Christou,Dimitri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 20
    7 Constantin,Christon Vodena, Greece 1913 35
    8 Costa,Athanase Vodena, Greece 1913 24
    9 Coucha,Tassi Nakri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 23
    10 Dantsche,Georg Vodena, Turkey 1909 21
    11 Dimitri,Forghi Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
    12 Dina,Gorghi Vodena 1906 29
    13 Dine,Dimitri Voden, Macedonia 1911 37
    14 Fache,Nicola Voden, Macedonia 1910 19
    15 Gatso,Vouche Vodena, Turkey 1906 33
    16 Gosghi,Andon Vodena 1906 18
    17 Javan,Nuche Vodena 1907 24
    18 Jorghi,Vami Vodena, Turkey 1907 31
    19 Kimvrissiton,Athanase Vodena, Greece 1913 23
    20 Lazaroff,Karsto Vodena 1904 33
    21 Lazoroff,Flo Vodena 1904 24
    22 Lezar,...igor Popa Vodena 1906 25
    23 Ligor,Vani Vodena, Turkey 1907 16
    24 Longo,Todow Vodena, Bulgaria 1910 30
    25 Longo Nassi,Christo Vodena, Turkey 1907 24
    26 Miceff,Christo Vodena, Macedonia 1910 28
    27 Mitranchi,Athonase Vodena, Macedoine 1913 25
    28 Mitre,Anastas Petro Vodena, Turkey 1907 28
    29 Mitseff,Risto Vodena 1906 46
    30 Mizzi,Iovan Vodena 1906 18
    31 Natse,Itekof Vodensko, Macedonia 1910 27
    32 Nicola,...isrc Vodena 1907 0
    33 Nicola,Christo Vodena 1906 17
    34 Nicolas,Dimitri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 20
    35 Nicolas,Ghiorghi Vodena, Macedoine 1913 18
    36 Nicolas,Jovan Vodena 1907 15
    37 Nicolas,Rouchiou Vodena, Macedoine 1913 40
    38 Papadopoulos,Peridis Vodena 1906 22
    39 Parichkoff,Veissil Vodena 1906 29
    40 Paudjc,Glutro Vodena 1907 24
    41 Petre,Dina Vodena 1905 25
    42 Sinte,Gheorgki Jovan Vodena 1906 35
    43 Stoitche,Vane Vodena 1907 36
    44 Tanoraitcheff,Nicola G. Vodena, Macedonia 1910 18
    45 Tehiska,Vani Tochi Vodena, Turkey 1907 17
    46 Traico,Christo Vodena 1906 17
    47 Tripiche,Mitze Vodena 1907 45
    48 Tyrptchi,Gatso Vodenac 1905 38
    49 Vani,Jorghi Vodena 1907 17
    50 Vani,Manol Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
    51 Vassil,Christo Vodena 1907 17
    52 Vassil,Ristof Vodensko, Macedonia 1910 25
    53 Wassil,Dimitri Vodena, Turkey 1907 25
    54 Yanonlis,Nicolas Vodena 1913 26
    55 Yovan,Isapa Vodena, Turkey 1912 19


    Banitsa, 42 out of 99, 1 in 2.5 people, 42.5 %

    Banitsa; 42 out of 99

    1 Alexo,Apostol Banitsa 1907 18
    2 Angele,Alexo Banitsa 1907 18
    3 Christe,Pandel Banitsa 1905 20
    4 Cole,Riste Banitsa 1905 28
    5 Dine,Petre Banitsa 1905 33
    6 Gheorghi,Vassil Banitsa 1907 18
    7 Ivanoff,Stoyan Banitsa 1907 15
    8 Kice,Apostol Banitsa 1905 18
    9 Lazor,Petre Banitsa Monastir 1905 22
    10 Mitre,Krste Banitsa 1905 40
    11 Mitse,Rousse Banitsa 1907 18
    12 Mitze,Kole Banitsa 1905 32
    13 Natse,Tirpche Banitsa Monastir 1905 35
    14 Nicola,Anton Banitsa 1907 28
    15 Ninsto,Kire Banitsa 1905 25
    16 Oleva,Dotsa Banitsa, Greece 1914 45
    17 Oleva,Pantos Banitsa, Greece 1914 8
    18 Oleva,Stefanos Banitsa, Greece 1914 14
    19 Pile,Christe Banitsa 1905 42
    20 Rasse,Alusen Banitsa 1905 22
    21 Risto,Alexo Banitsa, Monastir 1905 26
    22 Risto,Ieszo Banitsa 1905 41
    23 Risto,Kole Banitsa Monastir 1905 28
    24 Risto,Nicola Banitsa 1907 36
    25 Risto,Petre Banitsa 1907 26
    26 Risto,Rosse Banitsa 1905 22
    27 Risto,Stoyan Banitsa 1907 28
    28 Roussefl,Karote Banitsa, Florine, Turkey 1909 23
    29 Roussefl,Stoitche Banitsa, Florina, Turkey 1909 18
    30 Russe,Bosze Banitsa 1905 35
    31 Steffo,Risto Banitsa 1905 26
    32 Stoitche,Risto Banitsa 1907 25
    33 Stoitchefl,Risto Banitsa, Florine, Turkey 1909 27
    34 Stojeon,Pawle Banitsa 1905 15
    35 Terpecke,Alexo Banitsa 1905 41
    36 Tipe,Craico Banitsa 1907 19
    37 Type,Risto Banitsa Monastir 1905 14
    38 Vasil,Dandel Banitsa 1905 31
    39 Vasse,Dore Banitsa 1907 19
    40 Yordan,Done Banitsa 1905 19
    41 Zole,Dine Banitsa 1905 18
    42 Zote,Wasil Banitsa 1905 23

    Other Balkan regions



    Cotcho,Todar Kosovo, Turkey 1907 22
    First Name: Todar
    Last Name: Cotcho
    Ethnicity: Turkey, Macedonian
    Last Place of Residence: Kosovo, Turkey
    Date of Arrival: Dec 04, 1907
    Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
    Ship of Travel: Furnessia
    Port of Departure: Glasgow
    Manifest Line Number: 0026

    Georghi,Georgi Christo Kosovo, Turkey 1907 26
    First Name: Georgi Christo
    Last Name: Georghi
    Ethnicity: Turkey, Macedonian
    Last Place of Residence: Kosovo, Turkey
    Date of Arrival: Dec 04, 1907
    Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: M
    Ship of Travel: Furnessia
    Port of Departure: Glasgow
    Manifest Line Number: 0027

    Crdan,Bozinoff Belgrade 1904 21
    First Name: Bozinoff
    Last Name: Crdan
    Ethnicity: Turkish/Macedonian
    Last Place of Residence: Belgrade
    Date of Arrival: Nov 25, 1904
    Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
    Ship of Travel: Main
    Port of Departure: Bremen
    Manifest Line Number: 0003

    Garril,Risto Belgrade 1904 31
    First Name: Risto
    Last Name: Garril
    Ethnicity: Turkish Macedonian
    Last Place of Residence: Belgrade
    Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1904
    Age at Arrival: 31y Gender: M Marital Status: M
    Ship of Travel: La Touraine
    Port of Departure: Le Havre
    Manifest Line Number: 0004

    Alexoff,Anton Abraham Sofia, Bulgary 1913 26
    First Name: Anton Abraham
    Last Name: Alexoff
    Ethnicity: Turkey, Maccdonian
    Last Place of Residence: Sofia, Bulgary
    Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1913
    Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
    Ship of Travel: Niagara
    Port of Departure: Havre
    Manifest Line Number: 0012

    Christoff,Joto Sofia, Turkey E. 1907 38
    First Name: Joto
    Last Name: Christoff
    Ethnicity: Bulgaria, Macedonian
    Last Place of Residence: Sofia, Turkey E.
    Date of Arrival: Apr 27, 1907
    Age at Arrival: 38y Gender: M Marital Status: M
    Ship of Travel: Ethiopia
    Port of Departure: Glasgow
    Manifest Line Number: 0019

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    O.K. DanielMaco, all this is good but...
    ...but you forgot to write down your conclusions. The facts speak for themselves, and, although I cannot examinate their validity, I shall accept them in good faith. Alright?

    Fact No:1

    "Combined statistics for these regions of northern Macedonia;
    Total for 793 out of 4450, 1 in 5 people, 18%"

    "Northern Macedonia" is the lands of your current republic, right?

    I had the impression that modern statistics show some 66% of the people of your republic to belong to your ethnic group. A sample of the Ellis Islands records is giving, according to YOUR DATA, a meagre 18%. Would it be my fault to suggest that rest of the 18% (i.e. 82%) did not consider themselves "Macedonians" but Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs e.t.c. e.t.c. If so, how did that happen? How did you end up at 66% from 18% less than a century earlier?

    Then I guess it is our fault to suggest that you are brainwashed Bulgarians, or whatever? Tell me DanielMaco. The funny thing is that I do not accept the view that you were Bulgarians. Not exactly. But you are doing your best to convince us of the opposite.

    Going to fact No:2, let's assume that many of your folks immigrated from "Southern Macedonia", the lands within Greece, and changed the balance.

    Fact No:2

    You post only results from 2 places in Greece, while your side suggests that "Greece occupies >50% of United Macedonia". Interesting really, but in any case, in a total of 801 people, 97 declare your ethnicity, and this gives you a total of... eh... 12,11 percent. I'd really want from you now to add the arrivals at the Ellis Island from all the other Macedonian cities and villages in modern Greece to the number 801, and divide 97 by that new number, and tell me if the members of your minority in Greece have actually increased their presence in Greece over time, instead of reducing it as your side suggests.

    Intermission.

    "Vodena" was the only city the former lands of the Ottoman empire in the Greek region of Macedonia that had a Slavic name. All the others like "Selanik", "Kilkits", "Florina", e.t.c. e.t.c., were the OFFICIAL OTTOMAN NAMES.

    Fact No:3

    What were the original toponyms again?

    Original Ottoman name: Uskub. Census data on the name:

    "Skopje; 0 out of 3
    Skoplije; 2 out of 2
    Skopie; 3 out of 13
    Uskub; 26 out of 235"

    If we lump up all "Skopje", "Skoplije" and "Skopie" in one Skopje - as a favor to your side, we get 18 votes. Uskub gets 235 votes. Results: Skopje 7,11%, Uskub 92,88%, and the name of the city is... Uskub!

    Original Ottoman name: Manastir. Census data on the name:

    "Bitola; 12 out of 39
    Bitolia; 7 out of 51
    Bitolj; 15 out of 43
    Manastir; 21 out of 76
    Monastir; 567 out of 3493"

    At that point, you got your calculations fogged. You state that all of the names for "Bitola" account for 3493, of while 567 declare "Macedonians". The trouble is, this number is for the naming "Monastir" alone, and this "Monastir" alone is enough to overshadow everything else. In reality, we have 3702 people from all the names of the city, of which 610 declare "Macedonians".

    In any case, your suggestion that:

    "Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%" is false. Why? Because if you divide 567 by 3493 you get 6.16%, or 1 in 16 people. I'll have to recompile all of your data again because you are obviously unable to make simple mathematical divisions. Anyway, in the name competion, we get a total of 3702 votes, and the contestants get: Bitola: 1.05%, Bitolia: 1.37%, Bitolj: 1.16%, Manastir: 2.05% and finally Monastir: 94,35%, and the name of the city is... Monastir!

    So, you need to make some justice and reinstate Uskub and Monastir, shouldn't you? Otherwise how shall you convince the Albanian mayor of Kalkandelen that his citys' name is actually Tetovo?

    Fact No4:

    You have actually less than 18%. You have 794 of 4659 folks, or 17.04% declaring "Macedonians" in what is today your country. Congratulations! Of course, there can be no total for all of what you think to be Macedonia, unless if you provide stats from Thessaloniki, Serres, e.t.c.

    So, what exactly did you prove DanielMaco? Your existence at 1910-1914, or the proof that your people didn't feel "ethnic Macedonians" back then? I'd really want to see the sum of all the people who immigrated from Macedonia, maybe they include some "Bessarabians" too, unfortunately, the most famous of them immigrated to Russia...

    ...But I'd really want to see what Misirkov would declare in Ellis Island, if he had the chance...

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  2. this is the tip of the iceberg, only written and saved are here, how many could not write,the turks or greeks burnt the villages, we are from, negocani(niki), rakovo (kratero), klabuchischa (poliplatano), hundreds of my family tree ,Macedonians by tens of thousands had to flee the occupied territories.

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  3. 1912 Population of Vilayet of Monastir

    335,000 Macedonians and Bulgarians
    219,000 Albanian Muslims
    65,000 Vlach
    62,000 Greeks
    35,000 Mixed

    Ethnicities were not easy to decide since religion was more important to the Turkish overlords. Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria were looking for new territories and new subjects. There were seven languages spoken in Macedonia at the time. The most common language among Christians was Macedonian. 40,000 Muslims also spoke Macedonian. Nevertheless, there is substantial agreement among the European ethnographers: a little over one million Macedonians. Only the Greeks came up with substantially different figures due to their grandiose political agenda, the Megale idea. Grandiosity and narcissism still seems common among this sort of supremacist...one would almost say 'fascist'.

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