Author, "Balkan Ghosts"
From: David Edenden
Below is an article regarding the results of the 1920 Greek Census in Greek Macedonia, published by The Rainbow Party of ethnic Macedonians in Greece. The Greek government has classified it as top-secret for reasons that are obvious from the article below. Maybe you can write on how the Greek government was the first to recognize Macedonians, as a people, in the census and even commissioned the first Macedonian language school text book!
Robert, I think it is time for a mea culpa ... you know what I mean.
2000 Who Says There Are No Minority Languages in Greece: October 2000It is widely known that Greece refuses to acknowledge the existence of national minorities and minority languages. Similarly, in the Greek census of 1961, 1971, 1981 and 1991 any mention of one's mother tongue is absent. This is not by chance but, rather, a deliberate policy of the Greek government. In the earlier census of 1940 and 1951 one can find such declarations as "Slavic" language. Whereas, in the census of 1928 one can find a language declaration of "Slav Macedonian."
However, in the census of 1920, immediately after Greece's acquisition of the "New Territories" the government of the day offers some revealing information. In the census of 19 December, 1920, the official Greek census form had a separate area asking: "what is your mother tongue? What is the language you speak at home? If your mother tongue is not Greek do you understand Greek? This census document can be found in the book by M. Houliarakis (Geografiki, dioikitiki kai plithismiaki ekseliksi tis Ellados tom G' page 363)
The data obtained from the census of 1920 offers great detail about the population to the point of distinguishing between deaf males and deaf females. It also includes the data on language and mother tongue.
Unfortunately, the census information relating to the population of the "New Territories" was never made public. This information preceded the exchanges of Christian and Muslim populations between Turkey and Greece or the so-called "voluntary" population exchanges between Greece and Bulgaria.
At that time Greece only published the results from the geographic area of "old Greece" (Sterea, Evoia, Thessalia, Arta, Ionian Islands, Cyclades, Peloponese...). Five volumes containing census data from the "New Territories," which included information on religion and language, were prohibited from being made public.
In the archives of the Census Council or the General Archives of the Greek state we shall not find census data on the northern territories (the new territories of Macedonia and Western Thrace) for the census period of 1920.
However, page 182 of the volume of census data for 1920 (published in 1929) for the area of Trikala (in Thessaly and Arta just south of the new territories) the following linguistic categories are reported for mother tongue:
Greek, Spanish, Romi, Koutsovlach, Albanian, Bulgarian, Serbian and 37 individuals from Trikala who declared their mother tongue as Macedonian. [page 1] | [page 2]
This is official census data published by the Greek government wherein, not only is the Macedonian language documented by the census authority but it is rightly distinguished from Bulgarian and Serbian.
One can now appreciate why the 1920 census results for the "New Territories" have gone missing.
We would like to thank Mr. Dimitrios Lithoksoou for uncovering this data, which we published in Volume 5 of our magazine, Nova Zora (New Dawn). Mr. Lithoksoou has his own Web site with several pages of interest to the Macedonians of Greece.
To read this page in Greek click here
You can visit these pages by using the following links (in Greek): 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
Why do you have to rely upon the Greek statistics - that end up either biased or entirely hidden - and do not chose to settle for some more reliable source of information at the time, like the records of the immigrants in the Ellis island of New York. The U.S.Americans would certainly not have any reason to alter those records. You could, more specifically, choose the period from 1910 until 1914, when a large number of people fled Macedonia because of the wars, and they were not just free to express their identity, but a very good reason to trumpet it after all of the sufferings.
ReplyDeleteWell, as a matter of fact, a fella with the alias DanielMaco bothered to do so here:
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/free-speech-macedonia-forum/2434-stefovs-grandfather-2.html
I shall include his data along with my comments upon them to you, so that you can make your own opinion about the discovery of your people by the U.S. Authorities, long before the Greek state:
Originally Posted by danielmaco
Northern Macedonia; 1900 - 1914
Skopje, 31 out of 253, 1 in 8 people,12%
Skopje; 0 out of 3
Skoplije; 2 out of 2
1 Elia,Itse Skoplije, Turkey 1907 21
2 Paulo,Tome Skoplije, Turkey 1907 18
Skopie; 3 out of 13
1 Stoikoff,Dimitro Skopie, Turkey 1907 22
2 Stojan,Dimitri Skopie, Turkey 1907 26
3 Todoroff,Onton Skopie, Turkey, 1907 20
Uskub; 26 out of 235
1 Andon,Ontze Uskub, Turkey 1910 20
2 Atze,Iovan Uskub, Turkey 1912 19
3 Blajo,Todor Uskub, Turkey E 1912 39
4 Costeff,Pantche Uskub, Turkey 1910 28
5 Dinckhoff,Andren Uskub/Macedonia 1912 18
6 Giorgi,Anton Uskub, Macedonia 1912 39
7 Goreff,Traitre Uskub, Hungary 1912 28
8 Kostaki,Georgi Uskub, Macedonia 1912 45
9 Kotche,Georgi Uskub, Macedonia 1912 18
10 Kristo,Milan P. Uskub 1906 28
11 Krstr,Thodor Uskub, Turkey 1912 18
12 Marco,Risto Uskub 1907 31
13 Miladin,Blageo Uskub 1907 22
14 Mitrovitch,Pero Uskub, Macedonia, T E 1913 28
15 Nikolits,Slovodanka Uskub, Servia 1914 30
16 Nikolits,Taschko Uskub, Servia 1914 5
17 Papas-Eftim,Kosta Uskub, T.E. 1907 23
18 Petre,Thoma Uskub 1906 18
19 Plaveva,Cena Uskub, Turkey 1911 20
20 Sasdoff,Traitche Uskub, Macedonia 1907 19
21 Trayanoff,Petro Uskub, Servia T E 1913 40
22 Trprcovitch,Bogdan Uskub, T E 1913 20
23 Tsvetco,Costa Occho Uskub, Macevonia 1910 17
24 Tsvetco,Decho Uskub, Macevonia 1910 37
25 Yaneff,Nicolas Uskub, Kaisolunda 1912 33
26 Zafir,Dimitche Uskub, Turkey 1910 28
Ohrid, 36 out of 287, 1 in 8 people,12%
Ohrid; 14 out of 153
1 Bacaloff,Efftim Ohrid, Macedonia 1910 33
2 Dimitre,Stefan Ohrida, Macedonia 1912 26
3 Doukoff,Kliment Ohrid, Macedonia 1912 28
4 Jordam,Simonoff Ohrida, Turkey 1910 41
5 Kalaydjieff,Dimitre Ohrida, Macedon Turk. En. 1907 27
6 Krstanof,Georgis Ohrida 1907 21
7 Lenka,Stoyan Ohrid, Turkey 1910 18
8 Lestaroff,Stovre F. Ohrid, Macedonia 1910 31
9 Risko,Anasta Ohrida, Turkey 1910 31
10 Sirma,Lambora Ohrid, Turkey 1910 19
11 Spassoff,Hia Ohrid, Macedonia 1912 35
12 Stefan,Petro Ohrid, Turkey E. 1909 35
13 Steloff,Blaze Ohrid Monastir 1906 41
14 Strezoff,Peter Ohrid Monastir 1906 25
Ochrida; 22 out of 134
1 Alexo,Naido Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 21
2 Binbiloff,Silian Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 18
3 Binbiloff,Tzvetan Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 20
4 Bojin,Fraitche Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 18
5 Christo,tzamis Ochrida, Macedonia 1907 18
6 Constaminoff,Smili Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 19
7 Ghorghieff,Kesko Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 27
8 Jovanoff,Robe Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 38
9 Jovantche',Costa Ochrida, Macedonia 1912 18
10 Kaneotcheff,Stefan Ochrid, Bulgaria 1914 19
11 Klime,Maoum Ochrida 1907 38
12 Klime,Tzamis Ochrida, Macedonia 1907 22
13 Kostoff,Josif Ochrida, Turkey 1910 25
14 Mantcho,Stoyan Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 26
15 Naumoff,Christo Ochrida, Turkey 1910 19
16 Petko,Sorka Ochrida, Turkey 1912 23
17 Petko,Stefanov Ochrida, Turkey 1912 28
18 Risteff,Milosch Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 29
19 Spase,Christo Ochrida, Turkey 1910 23
20 Tasseff,Bojin Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 30
21 Tasseff,Riste Ochrida, Macedonia 1910 38
22 Velian,Tilo Ochrid, Macedonia, Turkey 1907 16
Prilep, 77 out of 255, 1 in 3 people, 30%
Prilep; 77 out of 255
1 Andrea,Angeleff Prilep, Turkey 1910 44
2 Athanas,Todor Prilep, Turkey 1909 27
3 Atseff,Georghi Prilep, Turkey 1907 20
4 Atseff,Yodor Prilep, Macedonia. 1907 35
5 Atzef,Giorgi Prilep, Turkey 1909 23
6 Boche,Jovan Prilep, Turkey 1909 26
7 Bojinoff,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1907 25
8 Christoff,Milan Prilepe, Macedonia 1910 30
9 Dame,Soter Prilep, Turkey 1909 16
10 Dameff,Theodor Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 19
11 Dime,Atanas Prilep, Turkey 1909 26
12 Dime,Nicola Prilep, Turkey 1909 31
13 Dime,Stoyan Prilep, Turkey 1907 28
14 Dimko,Petreff Prilep, Turkey E. 1910 26
15 Dimoff,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1907 23
16 Gleorgeff,Sofir Prilep, TE 1910 26
17 Govanova,Para Prilep, Turkey 1910 25
18 Govantche,Tode Prilep, Turkey 1909 18
19 Hristo,Ivanoff Prilep, Turkey or Greece 1911 33
20 Ileff,Vasa Prilep, Macedonia 1912 30
21 Iloff,Jovan Prilep, Macedonia 1912 31
22 Ilya,Kiseff Kostoff Prilep 1904 33
23 Ivanoff,Atonas Prilep, Macedonia 1910 20
24 Jordan,Tlateff Saloff Prilep 1904 23
25 Jovanoff,Stefan Prilep, Macedonia 1912 15
26 Koncff,Petre Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 20
27 Krste,Spiro Prilep, Turkey 1909 18
28 Milan,Naneff Prilep 1904 18
29 Milan,Yovanceff Prilep 1904 19
30 Mitreff,Boshe Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
31 Mitro,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1907 28
32 Najdoff,Iboyan Prilep 1905 30
33 Neckko,Wilan Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
34 Nicolie,Risto Prilep, Turkey 1907 33
35 Nicoloff,Stojan Prilep, Turkey 1907 18
36 Nikola,Filip Prilep, Turkey 1905 28
37 Ordan,Arhimadridoff Prilep 1904 26
38 Orvan,Tovanteleff Prilep, Macedonia 1910 31
39 Petre,Angel Prilep, Turkey 1909 30
40 Petro,Ivan Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
41 Petrolf,Johan Prilep, Macedonia 1911 24
42 Risteff,Krsti Prilepi, Turkey 1910 26
43 Risteff,Todor Prilep, Turkey 1910 34
44 Rizoff,Mile Prilep, Turkey 1907 45
45 Ronjevich,Dimitri Prileppe Turkey 1913 22
46 Same,Iovan Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 19
47 SIMONOFF,TLIJA PRILEP 1905 31
48 Slave,Georgieff Prilep, Turkey 1905 21
49 Spasse,Mirtcheff Prilep, Macedonia 1909 19
50 Spiro,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 22
51 Spiro,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 16
52 Stankof,Spase Prilep, Macedonia 1910 37
53 Stephan,Petret Prilep, Macedonia 1910 41
54 Stojanoff,Petre Prilep 1905 30
55 Storzan,Dimeff Prilep, Macedonia 1910 28
56 Tale,Stefan Prilep, Turkey 1907 35
57 Tarpe,Dimitre Prilep/Turkey 1907 25
58 Tasseff,Pana Prilep, Turkey 1910 18
59 Tasseva,Gena Prilep, Turkey 1910 18
60 Tode,Koneff Prilep 1904 22
61 Tode,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1909 22
62 Todor,Milon Prilep, Turkey 1909 24
63 Traico,Boch. Prilep, Turkey 1907 22
64 Traico,Filip Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
65 Trayan,Naido Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
66 Trayan,Ordan Prilep, Turkey 1907 21
67 Traycuff,Krste Prilep, Macedonia, TE 1910 18
68 Trazcovitch,Stamenco Prilep, Macedonia 1913 29
69 TROANKCHOFF,ORDAN PRILEP 1905 25
70 Troikoff,Maria Prilep 1904 4
71 Troikoff,Mika Kosteva Prilep 1904 28
72 Vassye,Mihal Prilep, Macedonia 1909 19
73 VELE,TALEFF PRILEPE, TURKEY 1910 37
74 Veleff,Dine Prilep, Turkey 1907 29
75 Veleff,Milan Prilep, Turkey 1907 22
76 Yovantche,Riste Prilep, Turkey 1909 23
77 Zuetcoff,Trenko Prilep, Turkey 1907 44
Prespa, 12 out of 37, 1 in 3, 32%
Prespa; 12 out of 37
1 Dime,Michal Prespa, Maced. 1909 25
2 Dimo,Yossep Prespa, Maced. 1909 30
3 Georgui,Stoyan Prespa, Maced. 1909 19
4 Gherman,Risto Prespa, Turkey 1907 27
5 Guerman,Risto Prespa, Maced. 1909 28
6 Krstin,Risto Prespa 1904 37
7 Naki,Stefo Prespa, Maced. 1909 21
8 Naum,Stefan Prespa 1904 28
9 Nitcho,Simon Prespa, Turkey 1912 24
10 Spiro,Marco Prespa, Maced. 1909 23
11 Stoyan,Risto Prespa 1904 33
12 Yani,Constantin Prespa, Turkey 1909 29
Tetovo, 16 out of 125, 1 in 8 people, 13%
Tetovo; 16 out of 125
1 Bojin,Nestor Tetovo 1907 31
2 Dimitroitch,Nicolo Tetovo, TE 1910 22
3 Dune,Ristov Tetovo 1905 34
4 Galo,Kiro Tetovo, Bulgaria 1913 31
5 Gavril,Simon Tetovo, Macedonia 1912 20
6 Gheore,Mihailo Tetovo 1906 24
7 Gherassim,Stefan Tetovo, Bulgaria 1913 28
8 Ilia,Blaje Tetovo 1907 19
9 Michoff,Andro Tetovo, Macedonia 1910 37
10 Mihal,Alexandre Tetovo, Turkey 1911 19
11 Nicola,Eoma Tetovo 1907 26
12 Petre,Mihal Tetovo, Turkey 1911 26
13 Simian,Stoyan Tetovo 1907 30
14 Yerosinoff,Yovan Tetovo 1907 27
15 Yoftche,Yossif Tetovo 1907 33
16 Zwetko,Gyorgy Tetovo 1905 16
Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%
Bitola; 12 out of 39
1 Bozin,Stefan Bitolak, Turkey 1907 25
2 Constantin,Wasil Bitola 1906 15
3 Fovanof,Cuetan Bitola 1904 24
4 Gheorgluff,Mitsi Bitola, Turkey 1910 31
5 Janas,Tole Bitola, Turkey 1910 34
6 Kristo,Zlia Bitola, Bulgaria 1910 17
7 Mikal,Gheorghi Bitola 1907 21
8 Mitre,Eale Bitola 1907 36
9 Mitre,Tacko Bitola, Macedonia 1913 32
10 Riste,Fzdam Bitolak, Turkey 1907 26
11 Spiro,Iovan Bitola 1907 29
12 Velian,Talse Bitolak, Turkey 1907 25
Bitolia; 7 out of 51
1 Amastas,Milos Bitolia, Gurkish 1906 35
2 Andreas,Christo Bitolia 1904 17
3 Consta,Dimitrios Bitolia 1904 17
4 Dunoff,Fazar Bitolia, Macedonia 1912 42
5 Hain,Jacob Bitolia, Gurkish 1906 25
6 Naoum,Consta Bitolia 1904 19
7 Panaghiot,Christo Bitolia 1904 17
Bitolj; 15 out of 43
1 Constantin,Hristo Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 21
2 Cretco,Dimo Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 23
3 Cuzma,Mitze Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 18
4 Gule,Dine Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 30
5 Lazo,Michael Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 21
6 Mitchu,Vani Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 22
7 Nikola,Costa Bitolj, Servia 1914 45
8 Nikola,Gligor Bitolj, Servia 1914 12
9 Pesche,Nicola Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 18
10 Tanas,Petre Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 23
11 Tassi,Doni Bitolj 1907 30
12 Vangel,Vassil Bitoljl, Turkey 1907 25
13 Vani,Cristo Pavle Bitolj 1907 15
14 Vassil,Petre Bitolj 1907 37
15 Vassiloff,Theodor Bitolje 1906 20
Manastir; 21 out of 76
1 Atse,Christo Manastir, Macedonia, E. Turkey 1910 28
2 Blageff,Ivan Manastir, Turkey 1912 26
3 Crste,Mahalie Manastir, Turkey 1909 17
4 Daneff,Zarie Manastir, Turkey 1912 30
5 Dellv,Petre Manastir, Turkey 1909 20
6 Georgitch,Dimitr Manastir, Turkey 1912 26
7 Gheorghi,Dimitre Manastir, Macedonia 1910 33
8 Kaamn,Yovan Manastir, Macedonia, E. Turkey 1910 29
9 Konstantinan,Stavio Manastir, Macedonia 1910 35
10 Konstantinan,Yaanon Manastir, Macedonia 1910 32
11 Melko,Stefan Manastir, Macedonian 1909 24
12 Mitv,Tole Manastir, Turkey 1909 21
13 Nicohoff,Risto Manastir, Turkey 1912 23
14 Nicoloff,Gligor Manastir, Turkey 1912 19
15 Petko,Ilia Manastir/Turque 1905 32
16 Restv,Vane Manastir, Turkey 1909 26
17 Riste,Spiro Manastir, Macedonia 1910 22
18 Stergiv,Georgi Manastir, Turkey 1909 19
19 T...v,Pelko Manastir, Turkey 1909 40
20 Velianaff,Iov... Manastir, T.E. 1912 30
21 Vretta,Mihail Manastir, Macedonia 1910 18
Monastir; 567 out of 3493
1 ...noff,Hanos Monastir. Macedonia 1907 40
2 Abdul Moustafa,Amzo Monastir, Turkey 1911 18
3 Abdulhalim,Abdualman Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
4 Adem,Cherif Monastir, Turkey 1910 36
5 Agnenovitz,Velus Monastir 1906 22
6 Alabak,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 32
7 Alamed,Assini Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
8 Alexo,Tome Monastir, Turkey 1905 31
9 Anastas,Asseff Monastir, Turkey 1910 25
10 Anastas,Choma Monastir, Macedonia 1910 30
11 Anastas,Pantele Monastir 1906 26
12 Anastas,Vangnel Monastir 1906 17
13 Anaztas,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1909 36
14 Andon,Petre Monastirr 1906 25
15 Andreff,Naki Monastir, Turkey 1909 24
16 Andronoff,Boris Monastir, Bulgary 1911 28
17 Angele,Stesso Monastir 1906 21
18 Anghele,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1905 19
19 Anghele,Stavre Monastir 1907 39
20 Apostol,Bogone Monastir 1907 19
21 Apostol,Velian Monastir, Maced. 1913 19
22 Arqherios,Christian Monastir, Maced 1907 19
23 Atanas,Ghiorghi Monastir, Turkey 1910 32
24 Athanas,Christin Monastir, Popei 1908 21
25 Athanas,Christon Monastir, Turkey 1905 23
26 Athanas,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 18
27 Athanas,Michael Monastir 1906 19
28 Athanas,Naoum Monastir 1906 22
29 Athanas,Nicolas Monastir 1906 29
30 Atze,Risto Monastir 1906 21
31 Avram,Marco Monastir 1906 27
32 Awram,Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1909 16
33 Bagio,Schauto Monastir, Macedonia 1910 31
34 Bagoje,Mitre Monastir, Turkey A 1907 21
35 Blaje,Dime Monastir, Turkey 1905 20
36 Blaji,Boche Monastir 1906 20
37 Blaji,Riste Monastir 1903 26
38 Boboia,Fraiciu Monastir 1905 18
39 Boche,Mirre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 33
40 Boche,Petre Monastir 1906 19
41 Boche,Tole Monastir, Macedonia 1907 28
42 Bochko,George Monastir, Turkey 1911 30
43 Bogatin,Yovan Monastir 1906 22
44 Bogdan,Iadro Monastir, Turkey 1907 21
45 Bogin,Ylio Monastir, Macedonia 1912 34
46 Bogine,Vele Monastir, Turkey 1910 17
47 Bogoja,Paole Monastir 1907 21
48 Bogoya,Petro Monastir, Macedonia 1910 20
49 Bogoya,Tane Monastir 1906 27
50 Bogoyevits,Ipasse Monastir 1906 22
51 Bojin,Mitre Monastir 1906 29
52 Bojin,Stoitche Monastir 1906 33
53 Bojm,Dimo Monastir, Turkey 1910 30
54 Bosilko,Atanas Monastir 1904 41
55 Bozim,Mitre Monastir 1904 17
56 Bozim,Thodor Monastir 1904 30
57 Bozin,Vassil Monastir 1905 31
58 Bozinof,Milan Monastir 1906 20
59 Cato,Lazop Monastir, Macedonia 1910 45
60 Cato,P...gh Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
61 Cenas,Hristo Monastir 1906 16
62 Chevik,Ramadan Zairam Monastir, Turkey E 1911 32
63 Chili,Nicola Monastir 1904 21
64 Chosbedin,Zoulficar Monastir 1906 16
65 Christie,Nicolas Monastir 1904 29
66 Christo,Dimitraki Monastir, Turkey 1910 1
67 Christo,Ivanoff Monastir, Turkey 1905
68 Christo,Michael Monastir 1906 20
69 Christo,Petre Monastir 1905 29
70 Christo,Sophia Monastir, Turkey 1910 22
71 Christoff,Kire Monastir 1906 28
72 Christophorides,Philippe Monastir 1904 20
73 Cleriocican,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
74 Cole,Petko Monastir 1905 34
75 Cole,Sovan Monastir 1905 28
76 Cole,Tezo Monastir 1906 21
77 Coli,Stefo Monastir, Gherman, Turkey E. 1909 39
78 Colic,Riste Monastir, Macedonia 1907 18
79 Constantin,Alexion Monastir 1906 18
80 Constantin,Paole Monastir 1906 25
81 Cossoff,Lazer Monastir 1907 31
82 Costa,Gligor Monastir, Maced. 1913 17
83 Costa,Spiro Monastir 1906 19
84 Costantin,Cotcho Monastir, Turkey 1905 13
85 Coste,Petreff Monastir, Turkey 1913 18
86 Costof,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 18
87 Cotcho,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
88 Cote,Sekoule Monastir 1906 32
89 Craico,Naoum Monastir 1906 39
90 Criste,Criste Monastir 1907 19
91 Criste,Veloff Monastir 1906 32
92 Danail,Anastasse Monastir 1906 18
93 Delio,Costa Monastir, Turkey 1913 30
94 Dello,Nicolas Monastir 1906 31
95 Dello,Nole Monastir 1906 29
96 Dello,Petro Monastir 1905 38
97 Dime,Lazar Monastir 1906 39
98 Dime,Marko Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
99 Dimietrievitz,Trenko Monastir 1906 23
100 Dimiter,Giagi Monastir 1904 29
101 Dimitre,Vassil Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
102 Dimitri,Apostol Monastir, Turkey 1913 40
103 Dimitri,Christo Monastir, Turkey 1913 29
104 Dimitri,Gheorghi Monastir 1907 16
105 Dimitri,Lazor Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
106 Dimitri,Nicola Monastir 1906 25
107 Dimitri,Sava Monastir, Turkey 1910 24
108 Dimitri,Tapas Monastir 1907 17
109 Dimitri,Theodor Monastir 1905 19
110 Dimitrion,Nicolaos Monastir 1905 22
111 Dimitroff,Georgi Monastir, Macedonia 1907 20
112 Dimitroff,Jovantche Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
113 Dimitroff,Stoyan Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 29
114 Dimkoff,Ilia Monastir 1906 19
115 Dimoff,Traytche Monastir, Macedonia 1910 29
116 Dina,Marios Monastir, Macedonia 1906 20
117 Dine,Panto Monastir 1906 22
118 Dinef Zawan,Dinef Zawan Monastir 1906 40
119 Djemail,Daont Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 20
120 Dondonloff,Anton G. Monastir, Turkey 1907 39
121 Dondonloff,Kriste D. Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
122 Done,Constantinos Monastir, Turkey 1905 35
123 Done,Mitre Monastir 1906 23
124 Doneff,Christo Monastir 1906 23
125 Doneff,Todor Monastir 1906 17
126 Dore,Nicolas Monastir 1906 21
127 Dortchine,Strebre Monastir 1906 23
128 Elia,Georges Monastir, Manastre 1908 29
129 File,Anastase Monastir 1906 23
130 File,Bojin Monastir 1905 50
131 File,Tirptche Monastir 1904 24
132 Fonah,Traiko Monastir, Macedonia 1906 35
133 Foti,Thomas Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 19
134 Founowzoff,Lazlo T. Monastir, Turkey 1912 45
135 Fozi,Jean George Monastir 1905 20
136 Fozi,Sotirios Nicolas Monastir 1905 19
137 Fraico,Vangel Monastir, Turkey 1912 19
138 Fraytsche,Che...r Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
139 Gatso,Papa Constantin Monastir 1906 20
140 Georges,Alexo Monastir, Turkey 1911 17
141 Georghi,Constantin Monastir 1905 16
142 Georghi,Demetri Monastir 1905 20
143 Georghi,Ilia Monastir 1905 27
144 Georghi,Ilija Monastir, Macedonia 1909 26
145 Georgi,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1907 21
146 Georgihi,Vassil Monastir 1906 19
147 Ghele,Vassil Monastir 1906 30
148 Gheorghi,Dimitri Monastir 1906 19
149 Gheorghi,Iovan Monastir 1906 19
150 Gheorghi,Mitre Monastir 1906 19
151 Gheorghi,Mitse Monastir, Turkey 1905 39
152 Gheorghi,Nicola Monastir 1906 28
153 Gheorghi,Nikola Monastir, Turkey 1911 41
154 Gheorghi,Petco Monastir 1906 22
155 Gheorghi,Petre Monastir 1906 27
156 Gheorghi,Petre Monastir 1906 29
157 Gheorghi,Risto Monastir 1906 20
158 Gheorof,Todor Monastir 1906 26
159 Ghermani,Borgoia Monastir 1906 24
160 Ghiorghi,Andre Monastir 1904 18
161 Ghiorghi,Trayco Monastir, Macedonia 1909 33
162 Ghiorghi Hrisla,Spiro Monastir, Macedonia 1911 40
163 Ghiorgi,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
164 Ghitche,File Monastir 1906 29
165 Ginorgur,Petre Monastir 1904 30
166 Giorgi,Yassil Monastir, Maced. 1910 20
167 Giorgi,Zimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1910 17
168 Giorgie,Jovan Monastir, Macedonia 1912 39
169 Giorgieff,Konstandin Monastir, Macedonia 1907 27
170 Gitse,Constantin Monastir 1906 31
171 Gligor,Hristo Monastir, Turkey 1907 23
172 Gniorgnieff,Spiro Monastir 1905 16
173 Gnocheff,Christo Monastir 1905 42
174 Goche,Alexo Monastir 1907 25
175 Gogon,Christo Sive Monastir 1906 22
176 Gotche,Mitrche Monastir 1907 23
177 Grozdam,Petre Monastir 1906 46
178 Guiorgni,Marko Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
179 Guiorgui,Petre Pop Monastir 1905 32
180 Haralamb,Stoitche Monastir 1905 26
181 Hristo,Anghele Monastir 1904 25
182 Hristo,Kralo Monastir 1905 17
183 Ilio,Gheorghi Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
184 Ilio,Risto Monastir 1906 16
185 Illin,Miliorilo Monastir 1906 40
186 Illo,Petro Monastir 1905 22
187 Ilo,Alexo Monastir 1906 28
188 Ilo,Constandine Monastir 1906 25
189 Ilo,Marco Monastir 1905 20
190 Iovan,Christe Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
191 Iovan,Ghiorghi Monastir 1906 34
192 Iovan,Vassil Monastir 1906 18
193 Itzo,Marco Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
194 Itzof,Milan Monastir, Turkey 1907 25
195 Ivanoff,Georgi Monastir, Turkey 1910 31
196 Janaki,Vasunitche Monastir, Turkey 1905 23
197 Janeff,Petre Monastir 1905 23
198 Janko,Dimitri Monastir 1904 18
199 Jerman,Gheorge Monastir, Macedonia 1913 17
200 Jlia,Louis Monastir, Macedonia 1912 0
201 Jlia,Simonof Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
202 Joan,Anastas Monastir, Maced. 1912 18
203 Joffche,Riste Monastir 1904 42
204 Josko Atself,Hioff Monastir, Turkey 1912 23
205 Josnes,Christoff Monastir 1905 26
206 Jovan,Christo Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
207 Jovan,Dimitrie Monastir 1906 19
208 Jovan,Lazor Monastir 1904 20
209 Jovan,Nicola Monastir 1905 35
210 Jovan,Nicolas Monastir, Macedonia 1907 39
211 Jovan,Vassil Monastir, Turkey 1907 30
212 Karafil,Anastas Monastir 1904 19
213 Karamphil,Jovan Monastir 1905 30
214 Karanfilsvitch,Panajote Monastir, Turkey 1909 25
215 Karatic,Ivdor Monastir 1904 21
216 Khalajian,Parsegh Monastir 1906 25
217 Kiazim Moustafa,Redjep Monastir, Turkey E. 1911 30
218 Kitanoff,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
219 Kizste,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 28
220 Klimo,Ylio Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
221 Kole,Mitre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 30
222 Kole,Mitse Monastir, Turkey 1913 25
223 Kolef,Giore Monastir, Turkey 1907 36
224 Kosta,Elia Monastir, Turkey 1908 25
225 Kostena,Olga Monastir, Turkey 1910 11
226 Kostena,Vansilkaj Monastir, Turkey 1910 20
227 Kosti,Alexdre. Skalera Monastir 1906 17
228 Kosti,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1907 19
229 Kostic,Nedelco Monastir 1903 29
230 Kostoff,Ilo Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
231 Kote,Mikal Monastirr 1906 20
232 Kote,Tanco Monastir 1904 36
233 Kouzman,Eyrptecke Monastir 1906 39
234 Kozman,Athanas Monastir 1907 25
235 Krist,Tidol Monastir 1904 27
236 Kriste,Petre Monastir 1903 49
237 Kristo,Cole Monastir 1906 19
238 Krste,Gheorghi Monastir 1905 18
239 Kyrste,Stefo Monastir 1905 19
240 Laki,Naoum Monastir 1907 26
241 Laza,Atanos Monastir 1906 16
242 Lazaros,Jaonon Monastir 1906 24
243 Lazer,Anghele Monastir 1906 22
244 Lazeroff,Nester Monastir 1906 36
245 Lazo,Coleff Monastir 1906 18
246 Lazo,Georgieff Monastir, Turkey 1907 35
247 Lazor,Petre Monastir, Turkey 1913 19
248 Lazor,Stefan Monastir, Turkey 1910 19
249 Leonida,Michail Monastir, Macedonia 1907 15
250 Ligor,Lazar Monastir 1904 23
251 Ligor,Riste Monastir 1906 33
252 Maninoff,Risto Monastir, Turkie 1910 22
253 Marco,Stephan Monastir 1907 23
254 Marco,Thoma Monastir 1906 24
255 Marko,Doitzin Monastir, Macedonia 1907 33
256 Marko,Ilia Monastir, Macedonia 1907 36
257 Markoff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
258 Maun,Risto Monastir 1906 39
259 Mavre,Petse Monastir 1906 30
260 Medelco,Teodore Monastir, Donponi 1908 19
261 Michal,Petre Monastir 1906 19
262 Miche,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1913 23
263 Mihael,Nicola Monastir, Coritsa 1908 19
264 Mihal,Tovor Monastir, Donponi 1908 25
265 Miheile,Gheoro Monastir 1906 18
266 Mihri,Thoti Monastir, Donponi 1908 19
267 Mikaeloff,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
268 Mile,Kote Monastir 1905 19
269 Mile?,Stefan Monastir 1906 44
270 Milo,Alexo Monastir 1907 21
271 Mirtetri,Frenko Monastir 1906 25
272 Mirtike,Stoyan Monastir, Maced. 1912 17
273 Mirtze,George Monastir 1904 22
274 Mitcho,Tale Monastir, Turkey 1907 34
275 Miti,Nicolaus Monastir, Macadonia, T.E. 1913 19
276 Mito,Jovan Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
277 Mitre,File Monastir 1906 22
278 Mitre,Georghi Monastir 1907 36
279 Mitre,Ilo Monastir 1905 18
280 Mitre,Marko Monastir 1906 25
281 Mitre,Nicola Monastir, Turkey 1911 19
282 Mitreff,Marko Monastir, Turkey 1911 42
283 Mitri,Stefo Monastir 1904 45
284 Mitsa,Stoykol Monastir, Turkey 1909 27
285 Mitse,Dello Monastir, Turkey 1905 34
286 Mitse,Stefo Monastir, Turkey 1905 45
287 Mitseff,Spirko Monastir 1906 17
288 Mitze,Christo Monastir, Turkey 1909 34
289 Mitze,Risteff Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
290 Mitze,Traitche Monastir, Turkey 1912 40
291 Moianoff,Illie Dime Monastir 1905 18
292 Mourgof,Yosse Monastir 1906 28
293 Mowatche,Stefo Monastir 1906 30
294 Myron,Grigoria... Monastir, Macedonia 1906 18
295 Naeonoff,Nicola Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
296 Naido,Nicolas Monastir 1907 26
297 Naikanoff,Elia Monastir 1906 22
298 Naki,Filip Monastir 1907 21
299 Naonne,Jossif Monastir 1905 41
300 Naorun,Petro Monastir, Macedonia 1907 16
301 Naoum,Cote Monastir 1907 22
302 Naoum,Gligor Monastir, Turkey 1909 28
303 Naoum,Tachof Monastir, Turkey 1904 17
304 Naoumtche,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 25
305 Naoumtebe,Iovan Monastir 1906 48
306 Nasum,Paole Monastir, Turkey 1905 37
307 Natso,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 22
308 Naumoff,Riste Monastir, Turkey 1912 23
309 Naumtche,Bogdan Monastir, Turky, E. 1910 31
310 Nedan,Iovan Monastir, Turkey 1913 26
311 Nedelco,Vanghuel Monastir, Greece 1913 28
312 Nedelko,Riste Monastir 1904 22
313 Nestor,Spiro Monastir 1907 19
314 Nicola,Chomaki Monastir, Macedonia 1910 19
315 Nicola,Costandisr Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
316 Nicolas,Dimitre Monastir 1906 26
317 Nicolas,Va... Monastir 1907 35
318 Nicolof,Storan Monastir 1906 23
319 Nicoloff,Stavre Monastir 1906 25
320 Nicoloff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 28
321 Nikoli,Athanas Monastir, Turkey 1911 39
322 Nikoloff,Dico Monastir, Turkie 1910 20
323 Nikoloff,Traiko Monastir, Macedonia 1906 22
324 Noeri,George Monastir, Turkey 1907 36
325 Noneff,Nicola Monastir 1905 34
326 Nsiola,Trofir Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
327 Ordan,Itcho Monastir 1906 25
328 Orolem,Nicola Monastir 1905 31
329 Osman,Numan Monastir, Turkey 1910 29
330 Panaele,Stoyan Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
331 Pandeli,Andon Monastir 1906 24
332 Pandelis,Theodoran Monastir, Servia 1914 38
333 Pandellis,Naoum Monastir 1906 28
334 Paole,Spyro Monastir 1904 23
335 Papadimitrion,Jean Monastir 1905 24
336 Parche,File Tomey Monastir 1906 21
337 Pargon,Nicolas Monastir 1906 18
338 Pelkov,Anastac Monastir 1905 22
339 Petre,Iwan Monastir 1906 24
340 Petre,Joran Monastir, Italy 1910 33
341 Petre,Parel Monastir 1904 20
342 Petre,Tanas Monastir 1906 31
343 Petre,Waido Monastir 1906 14
344 Petref,Dime Monastir 1906 35
345 Petreff,Krste Monastir, Macedon 1907 31
346 Petreff,Paole Monastir, Macedonia 1907 21
347 Petreff,Tale Monastir, Macedonia 1907 34
348 Petrefo,Iovan Monastir 1906 24
349 Petri,Vassil Monastir 1906 21
350 Petrie,Simon Monastir 1906 32
351 Petro,Demitre Monastir 1906 22
352 Petro,Elia Monastir 1906 23
353 Petse,Stefo Monastir 1905 28
354 Phote,Ylia Monastir 1906 22
355 Poffkoff,Krste Monastir 1904 19
356 Pueorgui,Petro Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
357 Resteff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1912 18
358 Risko,Vassil Monastir 1906 23
359 Ristana,Christowa Monastir, Turkey 1910 40
360 Riste,Alexo Monastir 1906 21
361 Riste,Constantin Monastir, Macedonia 1908 24
362 Riste,Dimitri Monastir 1904 21
363 Riste,Gheorghi Monastir 1906 49
364 Riste,Petre Monastir 1907 20
365 Riste,Petreff Monastir, Turkey 1912 24
366 Ristef,Nicola Monastir 1906 26
367 Risto,Anastas Monastir 1905 21
368 Risto,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1907 32
369 Risto,Jane Monastir 1905 21
370 Risto,Lazor Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
371 Risto,Naum Monastir 1905 21
372 Risto,Petre Monastir 1906 27
373 Riza Tahero,Zeinel Monastir, Turkey 1911 30
374 Roche,Gheorghi Monastir, Macedonia 1910 20
375 Ropi,Thomas Monastir 1906 28
376 Sakineff,Kone Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
377 Save,Boje Monastir, Turley 1907 38
378 Sckoulof,Mirtse Monastir 1906 26
379 Secoula,Alexi Monastir, Merk 1911 27
380 Secoule?,Ilo Monastir 1906 19
381 Sfetco,Ane Monastir, Turkey 1907 30
382 Sfetko,Risto Monastir 1904 32
383 Simeon,Kiro Monastir 1906 40
384 Simon,Passe Monastir, Macedonia 1907 30
385 Simota,F. Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1907 25
386 Sober,Michal Monastir, Turkey 1909 25
387 Sofka,Stefan Petreva Monastir, Turkey 1910 51
388 Sokol,Riste Monastir 1906 21
389 Sotir,Dimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
390 Sotir,Nestar Monastir 1907 27
391 Sotir,Paulof Monastir 1906 30
392 Sotir,Tome Monastir, Turkey 1912 17
393 Sotir,Volceni Monastir 1905 22
394 Sotis,Lozar Monastir, Turkey 1909 27
395 Spadeff,Ilo Monastir, Macedonia 1912 20
396 Spase,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1909 35
397 Spasse,Todor Monastir, Macedonia 1907 31
398 Spetcoff,Kyre Monastir 1907 15
399 Spiro,Costa Monastir, Turkey 1909 38
400 Spiro,Kazie Monastir 1907 20
401 Spiro,Pano Monastir 1903 29
402 Spiro,Simo Monastir 1907 36
403 Spiro,Simon Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
404 Spiro,Stefo Monastir 1906 33
405 Spiro,Tale Monastir 1904 24
406 Spiroff,Milan Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
407 Spiroff,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
408 Sposse,Forghi Monastir 1904 18
409 Stanko,Shilan Monastir, Turkey 1912 28
410 Stasse,Cole Monastir 1906 21
411 Stasse,Cole Monastir 1906 22
412 Stavre,Grosdan Monastir, Macedonia 1907 17
413 Stavreff,Traico Monastir 1907 16
414 Stawre,Nicola Monastir 1905 29
415 Stayan,Ivan Monastir, Turkey 1912 35
416 Stcheff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1910 36
417 Stefan,Atanas Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
418 Stefaneff,Boche Monastir, Macedonia 1907 19
419 Stefo,Kanas Monastir 1906 22
420 Stefo,Kire Monastir 1906 29
421 Stefo,Pande Monastir 1906 24
422 Stenioff,Stryan Iop Monastir, Macevonia 1910 22
423 Stephan,Joran Monastir, Maced. 1912 30
424 Stephanon,Sotirios Monastir 1906 25
425 Sterghio,Mihalaki Monastir 1906 28
426 Stergio,Constantin Monastir 1905 28
427 Sterio,Dimitri Monastir, Macedonia 1907 38
428 Stevanoffa,Elena Monastir, Turkey 1910 18
430 Stirio,Lazar Monastir, Donponi 1908 18
431 Stoian,Lazar Monastir 1905 26
432 Stoian,Traian Monastir 1905 21
433 Stoicke,Risto Monastir 1906 40
434 Stoicke,Stesso Monastir 1906 38
435 Stoico,Gheorghi Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
436 Stoicoff,Alexander Monastir 1906 25
437 Stoiga,Petro Monastir 1906 18
438 Stoiko,Mitze Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
439 Stoiko,Svetko Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
440 Stoikoff,Bojun Monastir, Turkey 1912 19
441 Stoitche,Jovan Monastir 1905 30
442 Stoitche,Petre Monastir 1906 38
443 Stoitche,Petre Monastir 1906 39
444 Stoitche,Risko Monastir 1906 33
445 Stoitze,Temelko Monastir, Macedonia 1907 27
446 Stojtsche,Lazar Monastir 1903 46
447 Storan,Nota Monastir 1906 24
448 Stoyan,Dino Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
449 Stoyan,Ivanoff Monastir, Turkey 1912 14
450 Stoyan,Namtze Monastir 1906 24
451 Stoyan,Petre Monastir 1904 23
452 Stoyan,Risto Monastir, Turkey 1913 40
453 Stoyan,Risto Monastir, Turkey E. 1909 19
454 Stoyan,Spetco Monastir, Gherman, Turkey E. 1909 25
455 Stoyanoff,Todor Monastir, Turkey 1907 32
456 Stoyanoff,Traico Monastir, Turkey 1909 19
457 Stoyo,Ynan Monastir, Macedonia 1910 27
458 Stoyscheff,Trarcan Monastir, Turkey 1909 28
459 Strave,Glegov Monastir 1906 23
460 Svetan,Stoyan Monastir 1906 25
461 Svetko,Spiro Monastir 1906 23
462 Tache,Yani Monastir 1905 23
463 Tacheff,Stoyan Monastir, T.E. 1907 18
464 Tachko,Trae Monastir, Macedonia 1910 18
465 Tale,Dimitri Monastir 1906 35
466 Tale,Mihal Monastir 1906 24
467 Talea,Petre Monastir 1905 28
470 Talef,Dimo Monastir, Turkey 1910 31
471 Taleff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
472 Taleff,Riste Monastir, Turkey 1912 22
473 Taleff,Traian Monastir, Turkey 1906 19
474 Tanas,Franco Monastir 1906 26
475 Tarpteke,Karste Monastir, Turkey 1911 40
476 Tasko,Efthim Thodor Monastir, Turkey 1912 1
477 Tasse,Tode Monastir 1906 18
478 Tasse,Yovantche Monastir, Turkey 1913 39
479 Temelco,Jandro Monastir 1905 21
480 Temelco,Pavel Monastir 1905 30
481 Teodor,Ilia Monastir 1903 22
482 Terykof,Coste Monastir 1906 16
483 Thome?,Dimitri Monastir 1906 16
484 Tilia,Atanas Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
485 Timanoff,Constantin Monastir, Turkey 1907 17
486 Tjolle,Filip Monastir 1907 25
487 Tlia,Nicola Monastir, Macedonia 1913 22
488 Tocheff,Strezo Monastir, Turkey 1907 42
489 Todor,George Monastir 1906 21
490 Todor,Spasse Monastir, Macedonia 1907 31
491 Todoroff,Lazar Monastir 1905 18
492 Todoroff,Vanghel Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 22
493 Tome,Risto Monastir 1906 24
494 Tossiloff,Georg Monastir, Turkey 1907 18
495 Toughud,Chomas Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
496 Toughuel,Ylia Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
497 Tovanoff,Mile Monastir, Turkey 1911 18
498 Tractche,Todor Monastir 1905 30
499 Traian,Milan Monastir 1905 20
500 Traiche,Ilo Monastir 1905 31
501 Traicoff,Vassil Monastir 1907 16
502 Traieu,Dumitru Monastir 1905 25
503 Traiko,Christo Monastir 1906 18
504 Traitche,Jovantche Monastir, Turkey E. 1912 22
505 Traitche,Mitre Monastir 1906 38
506 Traitche,Tanass Monastir, Turkey 1905 36
507 Traithe,Athamas Monastir 1900 40
508 Trapantche,Riste Monastir 1904 33
509 Trayan,Nicola Monastir 1907 28
510 Trayanoff,Stoyan Monastir, Turkey 1910 28
511 Trayco,Lago Monastir, Macedonia, T E 1913 21
512 Trayhan,Ilia Monastir, Turkey 1905 17
513 Traytche,Lazor Monastir, Maced. T E 1911 18
514 Trendo,Risto Monastir 1905 24
515 Triadafilo,Lado Monastir 1906 38
516 Troutche,Dimitri Monastir, Turkey 1910 22
517 Tryfahon,Stoico Monastir, Turkey 1905 18
518 Tsaitche,Vanc Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
519 Tsertanoff,Tase Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
520 Tsvetko,Aneff Monastir, Turkey 1907 20
521 Vane,Risto Monastir, Turkey 1904 22
522 Vaneff,Stoysche Monastir, Turkey 1909 23
523 Vangel,Naoum Monastir, Turkey 1908 21
524 Vanghel,Georgi Monastir, Macedonia 1912 24
525 Vanghel,Risto Monastir 1907 23
526 Vanghel,Vasil Monastir, Turkey 1907 40
527 Vanghel,Vassil Monastir, Macedonia 1913 32
528 Vangues,Tovor Monastir, Donponi 1908 18
529 Vanne,Starre Monastir 1906 28
530 Vasil,Stoian Monastir, Turkey 1912 33
531 Vasiloff,Petre Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
532 Vassel,Stefan Monastir, Macedonia 1912 35
533 Vassil,Costa Monastir 1906 31
534 Vassil,Ekodore Monastir, Turkey 1909 18
535 Vassil,Lazor Monastir 1906 15
536 Vassil,Naoum Monastir 1906 19
537 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 29
538 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 18
539 Vassil,Nicola Monastir 1906 15
540 Vassil,Petre Monastir 1906 18
541 Vassil,Petre Monastir 1906 34
542 Vassil,Sadomer Monastir 1905 19
543 Vassil,Spiro Monastir 1906 35
544 Vassil,Stefo Monastir 1906 22
545 Vassileff,Kosta Monastir, Macedonia 1907 26
546 Vassileff,Petur Monastir, Macedonia 1907 22
547 Vassilof,Filip Monastir 1906 24
548 Vassiloff,Nicolas Monastir, Turkey 1912 18
549 Vaughel,Nedelco Monastir 1903 21
550 Vaun,Risto Monastir 1900 27
551 Vaun,Vasil Monastir 1900 19
552 Velian,Yovan Monastir, Turkey 1909 20
553 Velianoff,Stojan Monastir, Macedonia 1907 23
554 Veliari,Kriste Monastir, Turkey 1905 31
555 Velicum,Vangheli Monastir 1904 30
556 Vicolaon,Petros Monastir 1907 28
557 Waido,Jovan Monastir 1906 25
558 Waidova,Ilinka Monastir 1906 20
559 Waoum,Petre Monastir 1906 18
560 Yanaki,Constantin Monastir 1906 31
561 Yenikenla,Petros Monastir 1906 44
562 Yorantze,Lambo Monastir, Turky 1910 40
563 Yovan,Nico Monastir, Turkey 1912 42
564 Yovan,Sekoula Monastir 1907 15
565 Yoveniteke,Petre Monastir 1906 20
566 Zdrave,Tabe Monastir 1905 40
567 Zimitri,Ghiorgi Monastir, Macedonia 1910 0
Combined statistics for these regions of northern Macedonia;
Skopje, 31 out of 253, 1 in 8 people,12%
Ohrid, 36 out of 287, 1 in 8 people,12%
Prilep, 77 out of 255, 1 in 3 people, 30%
Prespa, 12 out of 37, 1 in 3 people, 32%
Tetovo, 16 out of 125, 1 in 8 people, 13%
Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%
Total for 793 out of 4450, 1 in 5 people, 18%
Southern Macedonia; 1900 - 1914
Voden, 55 out of 702, 1 in 12 people, 8%
Voden; 55 out of 702
1 Angheli,Jovan Vodena, Turkey 1907 28
2 Anghilaki,Jorghi Vodena, Turkey 1907 23
3 Carathanos,Nicola Vodena, Greece 1913 32
4 Chrastodle,Sophokli Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
5 Christo,...itse Dine Vodena 1906 30
6 Christou,Dimitri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 20
7 Constantin,Christon Vodena, Greece 1913 35
8 Costa,Athanase Vodena, Greece 1913 24
9 Coucha,Tassi Nakri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 23
10 Dantsche,Georg Vodena, Turkey 1909 21
11 Dimitri,Forghi Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
12 Dina,Gorghi Vodena 1906 29
13 Dine,Dimitri Voden, Macedonia 1911 37
14 Fache,Nicola Voden, Macedonia 1910 19
15 Gatso,Vouche Vodena, Turkey 1906 33
16 Gosghi,Andon Vodena 1906 18
17 Javan,Nuche Vodena 1907 24
18 Jorghi,Vami Vodena, Turkey 1907 31
19 Kimvrissiton,Athanase Vodena, Greece 1913 23
20 Lazaroff,Karsto Vodena 1904 33
21 Lazoroff,Flo Vodena 1904 24
22 Lezar,...igor Popa Vodena 1906 25
23 Ligor,Vani Vodena, Turkey 1907 16
24 Longo,Todow Vodena, Bulgaria 1910 30
25 Longo Nassi,Christo Vodena, Turkey 1907 24
26 Miceff,Christo Vodena, Macedonia 1910 28
27 Mitranchi,Athonase Vodena, Macedoine 1913 25
28 Mitre,Anastas Petro Vodena, Turkey 1907 28
29 Mitseff,Risto Vodena 1906 46
30 Mizzi,Iovan Vodena 1906 18
31 Natse,Itekof Vodensko, Macedonia 1910 27
32 Nicola,...isrc Vodena 1907 0
33 Nicola,Christo Vodena 1906 17
34 Nicolas,Dimitri Vodena, Macedoine 1913 20
35 Nicolas,Ghiorghi Vodena, Macedoine 1913 18
36 Nicolas,Jovan Vodena 1907 15
37 Nicolas,Rouchiou Vodena, Macedoine 1913 40
38 Papadopoulos,Peridis Vodena 1906 22
39 Parichkoff,Veissil Vodena 1906 29
40 Paudjc,Glutro Vodena 1907 24
41 Petre,Dina Vodena 1905 25
42 Sinte,Gheorgki Jovan Vodena 1906 35
43 Stoitche,Vane Vodena 1907 36
44 Tanoraitcheff,Nicola G. Vodena, Macedonia 1910 18
45 Tehiska,Vani Tochi Vodena, Turkey 1907 17
46 Traico,Christo Vodena 1906 17
47 Tripiche,Mitze Vodena 1907 45
48 Tyrptchi,Gatso Vodenac 1905 38
49 Vani,Jorghi Vodena 1907 17
50 Vani,Manol Vodena, Turkey 1907 20
51 Vassil,Christo Vodena 1907 17
52 Vassil,Ristof Vodensko, Macedonia 1910 25
53 Wassil,Dimitri Vodena, Turkey 1907 25
54 Yanonlis,Nicolas Vodena 1913 26
55 Yovan,Isapa Vodena, Turkey 1912 19
Banitsa, 42 out of 99, 1 in 2.5 people, 42.5 %
Banitsa; 42 out of 99
1 Alexo,Apostol Banitsa 1907 18
2 Angele,Alexo Banitsa 1907 18
3 Christe,Pandel Banitsa 1905 20
4 Cole,Riste Banitsa 1905 28
5 Dine,Petre Banitsa 1905 33
6 Gheorghi,Vassil Banitsa 1907 18
7 Ivanoff,Stoyan Banitsa 1907 15
8 Kice,Apostol Banitsa 1905 18
9 Lazor,Petre Banitsa Monastir 1905 22
10 Mitre,Krste Banitsa 1905 40
11 Mitse,Rousse Banitsa 1907 18
12 Mitze,Kole Banitsa 1905 32
13 Natse,Tirpche Banitsa Monastir 1905 35
14 Nicola,Anton Banitsa 1907 28
15 Ninsto,Kire Banitsa 1905 25
16 Oleva,Dotsa Banitsa, Greece 1914 45
17 Oleva,Pantos Banitsa, Greece 1914 8
18 Oleva,Stefanos Banitsa, Greece 1914 14
19 Pile,Christe Banitsa 1905 42
20 Rasse,Alusen Banitsa 1905 22
21 Risto,Alexo Banitsa, Monastir 1905 26
22 Risto,Ieszo Banitsa 1905 41
23 Risto,Kole Banitsa Monastir 1905 28
24 Risto,Nicola Banitsa 1907 36
25 Risto,Petre Banitsa 1907 26
26 Risto,Rosse Banitsa 1905 22
27 Risto,Stoyan Banitsa 1907 28
28 Roussefl,Karote Banitsa, Florine, Turkey 1909 23
29 Roussefl,Stoitche Banitsa, Florina, Turkey 1909 18
30 Russe,Bosze Banitsa 1905 35
31 Steffo,Risto Banitsa 1905 26
32 Stoitche,Risto Banitsa 1907 25
33 Stoitchefl,Risto Banitsa, Florine, Turkey 1909 27
34 Stojeon,Pawle Banitsa 1905 15
35 Terpecke,Alexo Banitsa 1905 41
36 Tipe,Craico Banitsa 1907 19
37 Type,Risto Banitsa Monastir 1905 14
38 Vasil,Dandel Banitsa 1905 31
39 Vasse,Dore Banitsa 1907 19
40 Yordan,Done Banitsa 1905 19
41 Zole,Dine Banitsa 1905 18
42 Zote,Wasil Banitsa 1905 23
Other Balkan regions
Cotcho,Todar Kosovo, Turkey 1907 22
First Name: Todar
Last Name: Cotcho
Ethnicity: Turkey, Macedonian
Last Place of Residence: Kosovo, Turkey
Date of Arrival: Dec 04, 1907
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow
Manifest Line Number: 0026
Georghi,Georgi Christo Kosovo, Turkey 1907 26
First Name: Georgi Christo
Last Name: Georghi
Ethnicity: Turkey, Macedonian
Last Place of Residence: Kosovo, Turkey
Date of Arrival: Dec 04, 1907
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow
Manifest Line Number: 0027
Crdan,Bozinoff Belgrade 1904 21
First Name: Bozinoff
Last Name: Crdan
Ethnicity: Turkish/Macedonian
Last Place of Residence: Belgrade
Date of Arrival: Nov 25, 1904
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Main
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0003
Garril,Risto Belgrade 1904 31
First Name: Risto
Last Name: Garril
Ethnicity: Turkish Macedonian
Last Place of Residence: Belgrade
Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1904
Age at Arrival: 31y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0004
Alexoff,Anton Abraham Sofia, Bulgary 1913 26
First Name: Anton Abraham
Last Name: Alexoff
Ethnicity: Turkey, Maccdonian
Last Place of Residence: Sofia, Bulgary
Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1913
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Niagara
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0012
Christoff,Joto Sofia, Turkey E. 1907 38
First Name: Joto
Last Name: Christoff
Ethnicity: Bulgaria, Macedonian
Last Place of Residence: Sofia, Turkey E.
Date of Arrival: Apr 27, 1907
Age at Arrival: 38y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Ethiopia
Port of Departure: Glasgow
Manifest Line Number: 0019
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O.K. DanielMaco, all this is good but...
...but you forgot to write down your conclusions. The facts speak for themselves, and, although I cannot examinate their validity, I shall accept them in good faith. Alright?
Fact No:1
"Combined statistics for these regions of northern Macedonia;
Total for 793 out of 4450, 1 in 5 people, 18%"
"Northern Macedonia" is the lands of your current republic, right?
I had the impression that modern statistics show some 66% of the people of your republic to belong to your ethnic group. A sample of the Ellis Islands records is giving, according to YOUR DATA, a meagre 18%. Would it be my fault to suggest that rest of the 18% (i.e. 82%) did not consider themselves "Macedonians" but Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs e.t.c. e.t.c. If so, how did that happen? How did you end up at 66% from 18% less than a century earlier?
Then I guess it is our fault to suggest that you are brainwashed Bulgarians, or whatever? Tell me DanielMaco. The funny thing is that I do not accept the view that you were Bulgarians. Not exactly. But you are doing your best to convince us of the opposite.
Going to fact No:2, let's assume that many of your folks immigrated from "Southern Macedonia", the lands within Greece, and changed the balance.
Fact No:2
You post only results from 2 places in Greece, while your side suggests that "Greece occupies >50% of United Macedonia". Interesting really, but in any case, in a total of 801 people, 97 declare your ethnicity, and this gives you a total of... eh... 12,11 percent. I'd really want from you now to add the arrivals at the Ellis Island from all the other Macedonian cities and villages in modern Greece to the number 801, and divide 97 by that new number, and tell me if the members of your minority in Greece have actually increased their presence in Greece over time, instead of reducing it as your side suggests.
Intermission.
"Vodena" was the only city the former lands of the Ottoman empire in the Greek region of Macedonia that had a Slavic name. All the others like "Selanik", "Kilkits", "Florina", e.t.c. e.t.c., were the OFFICIAL OTTOMAN NAMES.
Fact No:3
What were the original toponyms again?
Original Ottoman name: Uskub. Census data on the name:
"Skopje; 0 out of 3
Skoplije; 2 out of 2
Skopie; 3 out of 13
Uskub; 26 out of 235"
If we lump up all "Skopje", "Skoplije" and "Skopie" in one Skopje - as a favor to your side, we get 18 votes. Uskub gets 235 votes. Results: Skopje 7,11%, Uskub 92,88%, and the name of the city is... Uskub!
Original Ottoman name: Manastir. Census data on the name:
"Bitola; 12 out of 39
Bitolia; 7 out of 51
Bitolj; 15 out of 43
Manastir; 21 out of 76
Monastir; 567 out of 3493"
At that point, you got your calculations fogged. You state that all of the names for "Bitola" account for 3493, of while 567 declare "Macedonians". The trouble is, this number is for the naming "Monastir" alone, and this "Monastir" alone is enough to overshadow everything else. In reality, we have 3702 people from all the names of the city, of which 610 declare "Macedonians".
In any case, your suggestion that:
"Bitola, 567 out of 3493, 1 in 6 people, 16%" is false. Why? Because if you divide 567 by 3493 you get 6.16%, or 1 in 16 people. I'll have to recompile all of your data again because you are obviously unable to make simple mathematical divisions. Anyway, in the name competion, we get a total of 3702 votes, and the contestants get: Bitola: 1.05%, Bitolia: 1.37%, Bitolj: 1.16%, Manastir: 2.05% and finally Monastir: 94,35%, and the name of the city is... Monastir!
So, you need to make some justice and reinstate Uskub and Monastir, shouldn't you? Otherwise how shall you convince the Albanian mayor of Kalkandelen that his citys' name is actually Tetovo?
Fact No4:
You have actually less than 18%. You have 794 of 4659 folks, or 17.04% declaring "Macedonians" in what is today your country. Congratulations! Of course, there can be no total for all of what you think to be Macedonia, unless if you provide stats from Thessaloniki, Serres, e.t.c.
So, what exactly did you prove DanielMaco? Your existence at 1910-1914, or the proof that your people didn't feel "ethnic Macedonians" back then? I'd really want to see the sum of all the people who immigrated from Macedonia, maybe they include some "Bessarabians" too, unfortunately, the most famous of them immigrated to Russia...
...But I'd really want to see what Misirkov would declare in Ellis Island, if he had the chance...
this is the tip of the iceberg, only written and saved are here, how many could not write,the turks or greeks burnt the villages, we are from, negocani(niki), rakovo (kratero), klabuchischa (poliplatano), hundreds of my family tree ,Macedonians by tens of thousands had to flee the occupied territories.
ReplyDelete1912 Population of Vilayet of Monastir
ReplyDelete335,000 Macedonians and Bulgarians
219,000 Albanian Muslims
65,000 Vlach
62,000 Greeks
35,000 Mixed
Ethnicities were not easy to decide since religion was more important to the Turkish overlords. Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria were looking for new territories and new subjects. There were seven languages spoken in Macedonia at the time. The most common language among Christians was Macedonian. 40,000 Muslims also spoke Macedonian. Nevertheless, there is substantial agreement among the European ethnographers: a little over one million Macedonians. Only the Greeks came up with substantially different figures due to their grandiose political agenda, the Megale idea. Grandiosity and narcissism still seems common among this sort of supremacist...one would almost say 'fascist'.